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Old 11-19-2007, 10:54 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default AQ marginal spot

Main villain runs at 17/9.7/3.2 My thinking is that villain would have to bet with a made hand once this turn gets checked since the board is so drawy, especially since he is a taggish player. Maybe I am overthinking though.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($50)
SB ($60.80)
BB ($56.80)
UTG ($81.80)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($154.80)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($44.35)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, CO calls $4.50, Button calls $4.50.

Turn: ($20.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: ($20.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $12</font>, Button folds, Hero....
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

This is one of those spots where it's REALLY nice to have a read if villain bluffs missed draws or not.

Since there were both flush and straight draws possible, I might lean towards a call here.

I agree that no bet on the turn means he's a lot more likely to be drawing than holding a king.

His cold call in the preflop could be Kxs, but his 17% vpip makes this pretty unlikely.

I like a call. (not sure if I'd think quick enough to make it at the table though)
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

Well hes laying me 2.68:1 so Im curious if he is bluffing a whiffed draw often enough. I shouldve checked his river AF but didnt even have a chance because of my other tables.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

snap call.

this is a missed draw quite often imo and those pot odds are tasty.

and just dump all the HUD stuff into the popup box then you can check anything in one click. - just keep the stuff displayed on the table to the barest of minimums and have all the other info you could ever need one click away.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:53 PM
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How about my flop bet, meh or good? I am having alot of trouble figuring out when to c-bet multiway.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

Is villain capable of bluffing a missed draw into two opponents?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

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I am having alot of trouble figuring out when to c-bet multiway.

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Whenever you hit the flop somehow (this includes gs draws)

and more often IP than OOP.

I think flop is fine in this hand.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: AQ marginal spot

Little off topic but do you c-bet with AK multiway when the board comes like 852r or somethin like that?

As far as villain betting multiway, it looks like button is drawing as well. Seeing as how draw heavy the board is I didnt think that was an unreasonable assumption. Either that or button has a marginal hand, which I am thinking villain feels he can push him off of. My line looks like I have mid pair at the top of my range and a lower pair or whatever else at the bottom so villain could definitely try to push me off I would think. But its multiway so meh, idk. I ended up calling because of all the draws that missed but I hate playing multiway, its definitely my biggest leak right now.
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