2/4nl - I put myself in silly spots

[mikeysong]

villain is 22/18/5 over 250 hands

I've been pretty active at the tables. Haven't had any big pots.

Villain raises the limper and I figure given teh fact that there's a limper and he's in the CO, raising isn't a bad option here as his range is probably pretty wide.

1) He min-raises and I call - is this fine getting over 2:1? In limit it is [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
2) anyone shove at any point before the river? And is river a shove? Problem is pot is so big that I dunno if he'll fold hands like QQ or less here.

Aces, Kings, AK, JJ, TT all shove river given postflop, correct?


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $162.85
UTG+1: $231.60
CO: $513.10
Hero: $392
SB: $236
BB: $402

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $64</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $128</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($266, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($266, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($266, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero shoves?

[ycjason]

pretty bad call PF IMO, his range is probably Qs+, AK 80% of the time and 20% random stuff. so on a 752r board, if he bets like 1/2 pot (pot is big enough, 1/2 pot here is not really weak as it will be enough to get you allin in the later street), you push?

as to AF, you can push river hoping to fold out Qs, but I think that's the only hand you can push out in his range (I doubt he checks air 3 times after 4 betting PF, so he has something here that has showdown value 95% of the time)

[T0ne D0wn]

pretty ridiculous

[aditya]

Just check it down. After the table sees what you have, you can use it for metagame purposes.

I wouldn't mind pushing if it's just a 3-bet pot. However, he definetely has something, and I doubt he's ever folding. AK,AQ,AJ are all calling. 1010+ is all calling as well. So he basically calls with 98% of his 4betting range.

[mikeysong]

don't all strong hands (trips or better) except possibly AQ bet on river given postflop action?

[mikeysong]

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pretty ridiculous

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it is ridiculous. that's why i'm asking for advice. ty for yours

[ycjason]

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don't all strong hands (trips or better) except possibly AQ bet on river given postflop action?

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Qs probably won't bet, and also Ks full might play like this thinking you had nothing anyway, so anyway to get $$ out of you is to let you bluff at it

[Dmunnee]

I know you really want to pick up this huge pot on the river, but I think you get called by a lot of hands on the river based on your turn check. I wouldn't begrudge you for pushing or checking, but I don't think you get a fold very often here.

[skier_5]

if you don't know how to play a variety of boards postflop in this situation, preflop is a huge spew imo.

how to play postflop completely depends on what you know about his 4betting range imo.