stupid 4-bet hand

[JKratzer]

villian is 21/17, hasn't done anything noteworthy. this table has been 3-betting a lot recently.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,077.50
BB: $1,798.25
UTG: $204.00
MP: $1,321.00
CO: $525.00
Hero (BTN): $1,794.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $122.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $302.00</font>, SB calls $180.00

Flop: ($614) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($614) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero..

[ocklind]

I think he might check a boat here twice, so I'd check behind and call/bet the river. I mean, QQ/JJ could be a part of his range so, I'd check this turn.

[ogdundar]

I like a check here also. I don't think you can get two streets of value, and I hate to get check/raised in this spot, even though it should be an easy fold it's not always that easy to make in the heat of the moment. Call or bet the river if checked to. I think it maximizes your wins and you lose minimum.

[Rap Mogul]

If this is the type of donkish opponent who tries to trap trap trap, then obv check turn here. But if he's a normal good opponent who is always firing QQ or JJ here I don't see how you can do anything but bet and hope he shoves. If you check back here I think you are obligated to call a river bet although you wouldn't be beating much besides THIN value bet of AA KK AQ. This is really really all player dependent

[Paul B.]

450, call shove.

[FireStorm]

As aforementioned, bet and hope he shoves if he's the type that wouldn't slowplay. However, if you have any prior history that suggests he'd check QQ twice or JJ once here, you have an easy check. I think the former is likely enough that we can lead out here for 375.

[rand]

lol nice board,
i think there is value in a bet though

idk about a shove from villain though...if he were deeper id say fold but its pretty close with stacks

actually maybe still fold because he should no hed have no FE given his stack size (but AK may do this for value...)

guess i like 250-350 and then flip a coin if he shoves

[tommo]

bet 125, call raise

[Ship Ship McGipp]

everyone who flats a four bet is giong to die in their sleep

and i'm going to kill them

[shootaa]

[ QUOTE ]
everyone who flats a four bet is giong to die in their sleep

and i'm going to kill them

[/ QUOTE ]

yes. as played, check and get in a bet on the river.