too thin? 5/10

[Ship Ship McGipp]

wow i'm really surprised people think this is a bluff, i think it's a value bet and perfectly fine

[Irish Mafia]

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wow i'm really surprised people think this is a bluff, i think it's a value bet and perfectly fine

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Particularly against this villain. He enjoys calling.

I'd prefer 3-betting pf, but I like the way you played this hand.

[jlocdog]

Not gonna speak for bobbo but when I view this hand, I see minimal value in a river bet. Your bet will signify minimal FE he may think he has thus thwarting his bluffing frequency. This also now narrows his calling/raising range weight to hands that beat you. I think the bluff aspect is not precisely QQ but also weaker K's....thus the bad bluff if that was his/your intentions.

I understand he checks behind with weaker hands sometimes but I just look at it as the value I give up by having the best hand get checked through on the river << then the times I stack off with JJ on this board or at the very least $755.

[JKratzer]

jloc i'm really confused by your post.

[jlocdog]

Cliff notes to slightly buzzed post - This bet (taking into consideration stack sizes and lines taken) shows a ton of strength imo. This lowers the times he will bluff raise or even call with weaker. Conversely, this creates a heavily weighted range for him that does beat you if he calls/raises. The amount it costs you to try and gain value does not outway the times it costs you $755-your stack when he does infact have you beat.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

I'M SO CONFUSED

I SITLL LIKE THIS VALUE BET

[JKratzer]

after the turn he has $650 left. when i bet $755 on the river i am "putting him all-in".

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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after the turn he has $650 left. when i bet $755 on the river i am "putting him all-in".

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THE ALL IN IS THE MOST POWERFUL MOVE IN POKER, IT PUTS YOUR OPPONENT AT A DECISION FOR ALL OF HIS CHIPS

[jlocdog]

You
don't
get
called
by
worse
often
enough
to
justify
the
losses
you
take
by
going
'for value'...

To answer post title...yes, I believe it's too thin. BUT if I did decide to go for some thin value, c/c'ng river seems just as viable.

[AceCR9]

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wow i'm really surprised people think this is a bluff, i think it's a value bet and perfectly fine

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what hand range do you expect this type of player to call with then?

(not saying this is a bad line, just curious what you think his range is)