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Old 03-01-2007, 03:28 PM
viper930 viper930 is offline
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Default 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

Not too much of a read on villain specifically but he is 29/8/1.4 over about 500 hands and is 0.83/1.87/3.0 flop turn river aggro

I lead the flop here sometimes, maybe even most times, but checked this time.

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
9 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
CO: $505.50
Hero (BTN): $207.30
SB: $160.85
BB: $275
UTG: $189
UTG+1: $397.40
MP1: $225.45
MP2: $221.85
MP3: $194

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 9 players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $9

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

<font color="black">River:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($67, 2 players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $50</font>, Hero....
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

I call here but dont feel too good about it
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

And what are you putting him on? air? Seems like he'd never really be valuebetting a worse hand here.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

I think you should be calling, and maybe raising against someone with a river aggro factor of 3.

but a call is definitely the safe play.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:39 PM
D.L.M. D.L.M. is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

fine as played
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:26 PM
GrandMelon GrandMelon is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

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I think you should be calling, and maybe raising against someone with a river aggro factor of 3.

but a call is definitely the safe play.

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No worse hand calls a raise here.
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

I would never raise in this spot as you are never getting called by a worse hand. I think a call is fine as villain could be on a flush draw or have a weak pair trying to stab at the pot as you did not bet flop. Not betting flop has made his hand harder to be defined. Also i think a flopped flush or set would raise turn to try and build pot?
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

Please, tell me how can OOP villain raise turn?

I'd call it and wouldnt be suprised if pot went the other way.
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:51 PM
solvine solvine is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

sorry i miss read the hand your right oop villain couldnt raise turn, i'm an idiot
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KQ rivered 2pair after monotone flop

i also agree with AmonRaa and would just call it, dont see too many hands that you beat.But in saying that villain may put you on Acx and be blocking the river with a K, as he is also playing ~ 30% so a call i think is fine. I would say the call is nothing to beat yourself up about!! I really think the only thing with this hand is that not betting the flop is making his hand harder to define.
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