preflop spot with kings

[Oki-Oki]

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sorry i misread it.. i meant hu against lag.. he's in blinds with 3-bet

and u are in CO or button steal position..

is smooth calling a 3-bet optimal? AA is prolly standard but KK?

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It doesnt really matter whats most optimal sometimes you have to deviate from that in order to balance your range. But smoothing IP is often a very good play.

[piriformis]

sooth calling is bad also

[ogdundar]

So you want to fold then piriformis?

[fitnessfreak]

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So you want to fold then piriformis?

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rofl, i hope this is a joke

[piriformis]

sorry i thought it was obvious what i thought the best play is. just make it like 220/call a shove

[ogdundar]

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So you want to fold then piriformis?

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rofl, i hope this is a joke

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Yeah I was being ironic to point out that you weren't being too helpful just saying "it's bad".

Making a 4-bet less than all-in shows more strength than shoving here IMHO.

[Oki-Oki]

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sorry i thought it was obvious what i thought the best play is. just make it like 220/call a shove

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You realise that this and a shove are exactly the same thing. He never EVER bluffs over the 220, also we never make it 220 and fold. Therefore they are the same, IMO a shove gets looked up lighter than a 220 raise because that just looks so damm strong.

Also it saves us from the ugly spot where we make it 220, we get called and the flop is A high.

[fringsrache]

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So you want to fold then piriformis?

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rofl, i hope this is a joke

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Yeah I was being ironic to point out that you weren't being too helpful just saying "it's bad".

Making a 4-bet less than all-in shows more strength than shoving here IMHO.

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i agree with this.

if u shove ak in this spot u should also shove with kings from time to time.

[Janis N.]

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so spew its not funny. u get called by AA here only, and loose so much value from QQ/JJ/AK, or whatever medium pair the guy who cold called has.

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OP do whatever you do with AK here. If you shove with AK then shove here.

[freeucm]

Exactly these players at high stakes think about what the other player has too much and overplay lots of their hands. Go figure, im sure a QQ maybe even JJ will look you up. Then when they do have AA it is just a cooler.