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2/5 NL *Super Deep*
2/5 Harrahs in Las Vegas. This hand happened in mid January but I remember it like it was yesterday, so action should be exacly right.
$500 Max buyin Effective stacks: Villain is UTG+2 with ~ $3500, he has been running out of this world hot, but seems to be a donk. (calling huge raises with gut shots and middle pairs and getting there) Me: On the button with ~ $2800. We have both been at the table for 12+ hours and I have been waiting to catch villain for his stack. Preflop: UTG limps 1 fold Villain makes it $30 to go Folds to Hero, I make it $110 with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Small blind calls BB calls UTG calls Villain Calls Pot ~ $550 Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB checks BB checks UTG checks Villain moves in and covers table Hero? Insta call? Insta fold? I went into the tank for a long while, someone eventually called time on me and the dealer counted me down. Villain is a moron, but is he really risking most of his huge stack with AK or AA? I ruled out the flush draw. Villain is bad, but he is not psychotic enough to push that much money in with a draw. I am 98% sure villain has either AA, AK, or KK. Can I really put ~ 5+ buyins and 500+ BB's in here? Is it ok to chicken out here? Note: I have been opening alot of pots, but have rarely reraised preflop in the 12+ hours that villain has been at the table. He must think my reraise means big time strength, but he seemed to not care that the K came out. This was one of the factors that made me think so long. This was the most difficult hand I have ever played. Like alot of people on the forum, most of my experience is online with 100 BB stacks. I'm fairly new to deep stack live play and not sure if I should be risking this deep of a stack with the non nuts. |
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
You can always wait for a better situation. Why risk 5 buy-ins and 12+ hours if your not confident?
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
Call or fold fine, but I'M DYING FOR SOME RESULTS!!????
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
Ehm. Call.
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
you cannot distinguish KK from 22, and he could easily have AA... you need an absolutely sick physical read to lay this down... if you folded you suck (or you're usually good but were playing with scared money)... if you called and he had KK that's poker
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
I had $2500 to my name at the time of this hand. I put $500 into play when I sat at this table. So in other words, I had half of my net worth in play on the hand. AND YES before anyone else posts, I was way above my bankroll and that played a part in this hand. Also I was living at the Golden Palm at the time. I highly recommend you stay there when u go to Vegas. LOL. Any vegas locals will appreciate how tongue in cheek this recommendation is.
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
Flip a coin.
Then call. This is not a hand that 2+2 can give you any help on. You have middle set - if you want to fold, that's fine, if you want to call, that's fine too. FWIW I would never play 33 this deep (I certainly wouldn't re-raise it but that's another story). |
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
Hehe. zeebo I appreciate just the time it took to make that post.
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Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*
I thought for prolly 2-3 minutes(not fully sure of exact time but it was long enough for someone to call time, which i had not seen happen in 12 hours at the table). I usually act instantly b/c I hate people who hold the game up WPT style, but for once I felt like I had a decision that was so tough I could not choose.
I guess my question is, How deep do I need to be to let this go? At the time, I thought laying down was the best move. However, looking back I can't see how folding can ever be +Ev long term in that spot. |
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