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KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
Villain is running at 50/13 and doing a lot of limp/calling.
I put him on a flush draw or a Queen. But really, he could have anything with those donkish stats. What should I do on the river? Check/call? Check/fold? Or lead out with a shove (A Queen will maybe call that, right?) Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $118.25 BTN: $101.05 Hero (SB): $99 BB: $119.65 UTG: $64.10 MP: $9.35 Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (SB) UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO calls $1, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $5 Flop: ($14) Q T 3 (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls $12 Turn: ($38) 9 (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $26</font>, CO calls $26 River: ($90) 9 (2 Players) Hero ????? Thanks |
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
I would check, and call a reasonably sized bet. I think if you bet, he's only calling, most of the time, with hands that will beat you. However, he may bluff a wider range - would be good to know his AF, particularly on the river.
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
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Villain is running at 50/13 and doing a lot of limp/calling. I put him on a flush draw or a Queen. But really, he could have anything with those donkish stats. What should I do on the river? Check/call? Check/fold? Or lead out with a shove (A Queen will maybe call that, right?) [/ QUOTE ] Do you have AF numbers? Assuming normal loose/passive numbers, there is just too many Q/T hands for villain to call down with. Most notably QJ and TJ are great suspects here. And if he's a calling station, then anything goes. If you were deeper, I'd advise bet/fold. Here's the thing here. $90 in pot. You've got about half that behind. (Again, I don't have AF numbers - also number of hands is useful). My suspicion here is that you want to check/call, which means you're putting your stack in anyways. Unfortunately, that leaves a lot of value on the table for the LAP when he checks behind. So if you're going to risk your stack with a check/call, you might as well value bet river here. Make sense? Edit: This is specific to villain running at 50/13. |
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
Shove. c/c is terrible.
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
Shove for value from a Q. Not just AQ, any queen, he is 50/13/passive. Checking is bad because you don't want a Queen checking behind on that river. You will be beat a decent amount of the time but you cant check fold this river vs a 50/13 with the money invested.
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
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Shove. c/c is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? |
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
get rest in on river.
This is easy because of stack size. Even deeper though, i'd like b/f better than c/c. Even as donk he is, he's more likely to have limped UTG with Q than have hit flush. And if he's passive post flop, he may check behind with his bad queen or even JT type hand. |
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
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[ QUOTE ] Shove. c/c is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? [/ QUOTE ] See my post. |
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
Every draw in the world has got there, but there're lots of probably Qx hands he could have. As we have under a PSB having already put in > 1/3 of our stack into the pot, I don't think there's much point checking, so let's just put it all in
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Re: KK out of Position on Scary board (100NL 6 max)
yeah, i shove this for value on the river, and lol when villain shows Q10.
In all seriousness, with those stats villain will call with plenty of queens there... |
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