100NL: standard fold in a RR pot after smallish raise

[LuckySal]

READS: villian = 17/13-6 over +/-200 hands

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $96.25
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $118.20</font>
UTG: $127.65
MP: $100.00
CO: $213.90
BTN: $36.90

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3.50</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, MP calls $5.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($17.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($33.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $21.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $50.00</font>, Hero folds???????

Pot Size: $104.50

One thing for sure, i should have 3-bet more preflop (to $11 or something, cause i am OOP, and most of the time i do.
But villian seemed a reasonable normal TAG, so i expected him to fold or to 4-bet. As i've seen him done before.
Now iam in a tough spot, and most of the time i feel people float me this way.

So what do u guys think.

[keikiwai]

i'm not a fan of pf cause while you may be ahead of his steal range, you're behind his pfrr calling range and are oop

why are we donking the turn? i'd ch/ca turn or ch/f depending on his bet size

if you want to make a move, cbet the flop

[LuckyDevil]

I would lead out 13 on the flop, i don't think you get floated that much on that flop and you may get QQ to fold. As played, pretty easy fold.

[Logun]

given his tightness and position I would fold pf.

Too tight?

other than that your 3 bet is begging for a call - go to at least 13 but I preferr 14/15

[LuckyDevil]

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given his tightness and position I would fold pf.

Too tight?

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Folding pre is fine.

[keikiwai]

also if you raise pf, give him a chance to fold, so make it $13 or $15

[Ishfay]

If we are checking the flop its with the intention of getting to a cheap showdown and inducing a bluff along the way. Check all streets call one bet, two is harder.

I don't know why you bet the turn.

And yea, raise more preflop.

[tubasteve]

i fold pf like 90% of the time here vs this villain

as played, rr more pf, lead the flop, shut down if called.

as played on the flop, im not really sure why youre leading the turn, but since hes still raising then yea now you fold

[LuckySal]

WOW now i see how ugly i misplayed this hand, i played it yesterday around 3 am, and i can't even remember what i was thinking.
I really need to stop playing poker when i am tired.

thanks for the advice though

[WiSeIVIaN]

Why attept to resteal vs a TAG OOP. I can see this move from button or co, but your bb is not important enough to constitute a big raise when the only time you get called you are OOP and behind. As played the call on the flop is fine, but no reason to bet the turn.

Fold preflop and wait for position on a reverse steal vs a tag at the very least. Also, his is raising from MP, not from LP, are we not safe to assume that he understands position, and as such his stealing range is decreased? Bad spot to steal vs a bad player to do it against.

Of course, perhaps I am too nitty...