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Old 06-06-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $277.35
BB: $120.00
UTG: $294.85
MP: $211.25
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $349.95</font>
BTN: $42.80

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A Q (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $12.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($39) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 Q (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $31.00</font>, UTG calls $31.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($101) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $70.00</font>, UTG calls $70.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($241) J (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $175.85</font>

vill is pretty fishy 26/13

the fd missed
if villain had a hand before the river i would of expected him to raise
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

This is a RR pot, he has to be pretty nutty for you to be ahead. I think you see AK or QQ or something here a lot. Also I would check the turn most of the time.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:22 AM
Ishfay Ishfay is offline
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

I don't bet the turn. Not much value other than pricing out draws.

River, I dunno, nothing makes a whole lot of sense to me.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

let me reiterate this villain is not one to slowplay
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

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let me reiterate this villain is not one to slowplay

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ok. Go ahead and call river then.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

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let me reiterate this villain is not one to slowplay

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ok. Go ahead and call river then.

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that's why i called

by no means is it right
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

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let me reiterate this villain is not one to slowplay

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ok. Go ahead and call river then.

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that's why i called

by no means is it right

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Yea. I got ya. This hand confuses me a little. I'd check turn and try to check to showdown. I don't have anything else to add.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

ATdd or KJdd would be pretty sick.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] made the nuts and he doesn't think you're folding so the river seems like an ez disgusting dump. The turn seems kind of meh, I bet there too sometimes but I'm not sure if I like it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: nl200 tptk vs instant river shove

First NL post and i just switched over from limit couple weeks ago only got like 30k hands experience at NL 50 so my advise probably not that solid but here it is anyway.

Such a limited number of combos utg raiser can be drawing here with that dont have you beat. Hes rasing utg so stretching his range would be 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] up and a[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
possible semibluff: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
real hand :A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Even if he doesnt slowplay this turn river spikes a combo draws range more often then not consdiering that i think it makes it a fold
Also what is the point of betting the turn. In general i dont think its a bet but considering you think this guy is willing to stack off on a busted flush draw seems like this is defintely a great spot to induce a river bluff by checking through turn
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