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Old 10-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Good spot to b/f river?

Villain is 20/11/7 over 160 hands. Nothing really worth mentioning other than a few times he has 3bet my button open where I folded both. Probably views me as 21/17ish TAG.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($99.90)
Button ($117.45)
SB ($83.05)
BB ($110.40)
UTG ($76.50)
MP ($137.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, Button calls $7.

Turn: ($23.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, Button calls $16.

River: ($55.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>

Standard b/f river spot?
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:22 PM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

Ï bet pot on turn and river, and yes b/f is good.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

against someone with a 7 aggr factor I prefer to c/c, but B/f sounds good too.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:28 PM
YouCantEscape YouCantEscape is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

ok2aa:
No I do not like 23. This really looks like a scared blocking bet, and a lot of villains will shove u with air probably.

32 is fine.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

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against someone with a 7 aggr factor I prefer to c/c, but B/f sounds good too.

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I do not put much stock into aggro factor over 160ish hands. It usually takes a larger sample size for that number to become reliable enough to adjust our play.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

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i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here

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No, 23 will induce a bluff shove more often than 32. I would rather c/c than put myself in a spot where I suspect villain is FOS but can't call.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:37 PM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

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i'd bet less on the river. i think 23 accomplishes same as 32 here

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No, 23 will induce a bluff shove more often than 32. I would rather c/c than put myself in a spot where I suspect villain is FOS but can't call.

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Definately c/c will induce here as everyone loves to rep an ace.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

so what happened?
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:04 PM
TheDunePariah TheDunePariah is offline
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Default Re: Good spot to b/f river?

Villain's range to me is 66-88, 67s, possibly Axss (maybe 99-TT but unlikely because he has been 3betting you in position), given his stats. I think it is most likely an overpair being played cautiously in fear of a higher overpair.

67s probably raises the flop given the AF, and I don't think he's slowplaying a set here.

Given his range, I think betting the river is either going to fold out 77-TT or get a raise from 66/Ax (or a raise from air which will make you fold a better hand since you are planning on b/f). I like c/c here a lot more, keep the pot small on the river.
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