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Old 10-24-2007, 11:15 AM
TheDunePariah TheDunePariah is offline
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Default big drop oop - standard or spewage?

No reads on villain except he is 40/4/0.4 over 25 hands.

I'd appreciate any turn comments. I'm mainly wondering if my turn c/r is standard or if its spewage - do most people lead this turn and slow down on a blank river? c/c turn and c/f river if blank? What if you are in position?

I'm trying to improve the way I play big draws like this.

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Absolute Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($426.53)
Button ($384.65)
SB ($305)
BB ($448.65)
Hero ($241.45)
MP ($80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $9, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, CO calls $30, SB folds.

Turn: ($92) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $201.45</font> (all-in).

Final Pot: $494.90
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:20 AM
Llama88 Llama88 is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

First i would would be curious to know why do you still play on AP? and i was shocked to see that people play on AP. Also, he has very little fold equity here, and you may only have 9 outs. I feel like this is not the best play, i would rather lead the turn and evaluate from there
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:21 AM
bluey bluey is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

i'd lead the turn against this guy because i dont know if he is folding a 10. against better players i think your line will work more.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:23 AM
loosbastard loosbastard is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

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i'd lead the turn against this guy because i dont know if he is folding a 10. against better players i think your line will work more.

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Old 10-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

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No reads on villain except he is 40/4/0.4 over 25 hands.

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What does he b/f the turn with?

I would lead the turn and re-evaluate. Hell I would rather c/c the turn then CRAI against this station who will not find the fold button with Tx nearly enough shoving to be +EV.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:32 AM
jk3a jk3a is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

I'm not sure why you potted the flop, seems unnecessary. As played that is a really bad turn card for you. It just nails his range. You shouldn't c/r this type of player though. They prob. won't fold JT/T9 type hands once they bet. Just lead turn for 60-70.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:03 PM
TheDunePariah TheDunePariah is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

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First i would would be curious to know why do you still play on AP?

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Yeah... on a side note, I just heard from a friend, literally ten minutes ago, that AP is rigged. Can you point me to a good post to read up on this?
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:20 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

Check/call or bet/call.
CRAI is the worst option, imo vs this guy.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:46 PM
CobraGoat CobraGoat is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

If villain is rarely folding a T here, why are we leading turn as well? To keep initiative and better disguise if we hit?

Also, isnt potting flop ok to better set up 3bet all in?
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:48 PM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: big drop oop - standard or spewage?

we're leading the turn b/c we have some fe on the double barrel, where as we have little on a c/r.
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