How much to VB on rvr w/ set? NL100

EasyAs1-2-3 · #1 11-18-2007, 10:45 PM

Villain is 50/9/2 over a couple hundred hands but all mined. Just sat at table.

Hero has $100, Villain covers.

Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG folds, Hero(UTG+1) raises to $3.5, Villain(CO) calls, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop ($8.5): 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets $7, Villain calls $7

Turn ($22.5): 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets $18, Villain calls.

River ($58.5): 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero($71.50 behind)....?

Spots like these always seem to confuse me. I feel like we have 3 options - shove, bet 1/2stack, or bet tiny. I've always leaned towards shoving more so than betting about 1/2stack b/c I think it gets called more than 1/2 as much of the time. I seem to ignore betting real small in general. This is one of those spots I've never had a great understanding of. Any input is welcomed.

Dire · #2 11-18-2007, 10:48 PM

Definite shove. You get looked up with some major trash on boards like this.

kaby · #3 11-18-2007, 10:52 PM

always shove vs a 50/9/2 ... i think you can/should pot turn vs this player btw

EasyAs1-2-3 · #4 11-18-2007, 10:57 PM

Pot turn, thanks I'll think of that. I shoved and usually do in similiar situations. Guess I've been getting a lot of folds thus the post. What is our plan if hand is played on flp and trn the same way vs. a standard ~20/15 TAG?

Phreak · #5 11-18-2007, 10:59 PM

yes bet more turn...shove river def.

Dire · #6 11-18-2007, 10:59 PM

Depends on your image. If you are tight/conservative postflop then you have to bet moderate against a reasonable player. If you have a loose and bit wilder postflop image then this is a great spot to get paid off.

Demogorgon · #7 11-18-2007, 11:08 PM

Ive been shoving in these spots vs this type of player but they have been folding way more than expected. So I've focused on building on earlier streets so I could vbet smaller on the river. Like here Id make it $49-52 if I got here like this.
But on a drawy board like this I would be betting 8 (8.5) on flop and 23 (24.5) and 65.5 (70.5) on river.
Anyway. Should probably do the math on how often a shove has to get called vs a $49 bet to make it same ev but I do think a shove has way more FE.