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Old 06-03-2007, 04:18 PM
Akimka Akimka is offline
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Default NL100: Powerfull turn check to induce river bluff vs offering odds.

Villain here is 20/14/2.9 (2.6/3.8/2.5)

Here is a main question - how to extract most value from this hand.

Pros and cons of turn check

Pros:

KQ and Ax will attempt to value bet to us on river
We will not pump pot to give great odds to set
Busted FD can attempt to steal pot on river with bluff
We really unable to react good on a flat raise and two pair like AQ will extract most of us this way.

Cons:

We are giving infinite odds to FD
We are giving odds to Ax and paying them
Ax and KQ and Kx can not pay river bet if flush card will fall AND we will be unable to bet good value bet on river AND smart villain can bluff us out if flush card falls because our betting pattern always impossible for flush draw.


Taking in account all given thoughts what button you will click?

Interesting discussion is appreciated [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $138.14
UTG+1: $39.97
CO: $96.10
Hero: $112.20
SB: $47.21
BB: $94.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($27.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks or bets.
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:25 PM
tuuufts tuuufts is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Powerfull turn check to induce river bluff vs offering odds.

Bet and it's not close. AQ would have reraised us preflop, so there's no need to be concered about that. Same goes for AA and QQ. 66 would have most likely c/r'd the flop to protect and so we don't get scared if a 3rd club hits. This isn't the right spot to give a free card, our hand is very vulnerable and you lose a lot of value by checking.
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