25-50 hand vs Diablo

[SmileyEH]

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to diablo, turn card is perfect 'blank' for him to pull this kind of bluff imo.

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Diablo thinks I call too much

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would you run a turn c/r all-in bluff on someone you think calls too much?

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If he calls the flop too much I can see that as an arguement for a turn CR bluff.

-SmileyEH

[Prevaricator]

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to diablo, turn card is perfect 'blank' for him to pull this kind of bluff imo.

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Diablo thinks I call too much

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would you run a turn c/r all-in bluff on someone you think calls too much?

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I think that's a silly argument -- Strassa isn't an idiot; when Diablo says "he calls too much, but especially on the flop," based on the hands Strassa posts, this is more likely to translate "Strassa likes to float too much," rather than "Strassa likes to call his money off with marginal holdings and puts up little resistance." If the latter is the case, then obviously you are correct, but I doubt it.

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call this one quick. Your hand is waaaaay better than most hands he expects you to have here.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

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Let me be even more clear. Diablo is very clear to me about

1) How poorly I generally play

2) How good I am for his game

3) How I should not be playing in most of the 25-50 and higher games that i sit in on UB

He is very clear that KKF, bruiser, and most of the 25-50 regulars (including gandi9) are far better than I am. He thinks I give way too much action, am way too loose, and am a "[censored] terrible" hand reader.

So in terms of diablo thinking I'm not an idiot, I wouldnt be so sure.

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"Strassa likes to call his money off with marginal holdings and puts up little resistance."

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It would not surprise me one bit if this is actually how diablo feels.

-jason

[BobboFitos]

well, he's representing an overpair!

[riverboatking]

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well, he's representing an overpair!


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excellent analysis.

ps. strassa, you mention that diablo thinks you call too much, does he also think you bluff often?
bet weak?
call in position to make plays on the turn?

obviously no one who has half a brain tries to bluff a calling station, however if he knows you like to call in position to make plays on the turn there is a good chance he thinks you're way weaker then you are.

however in this spot i'd say you are behind here more then half the time as this is a perfect line to take OOP with an overpair vs. an opponent who likes to make plays on the turn.

[BobboFitos]

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well, he's representing an overpair!


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excellent analysis.

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sorry for letting you down RBK fwiw I had a little more typed up, then just assumed this would be enough.

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ps. strassa, you mention that diablo thinks you call too much, does he also think you bluff often?
bet weak?
call in position to make plays on the turn?

obviously no one who has half a brain tries to bluff a calling station, however if he knows you like to call in position to make plays on the turn there is a good chance he thinks you're way weaker then you are.

however in this spot i'd say you are behind here more then half the time as this is a perfect line to take OOP with an overpair vs. an opponent who likes to make plays on the turn.

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yea, exactly. What I also ment by it is TT doesnt fare great vs the overpair range, although getting the price he is, he doesnt need to beat "half" the range, just a little more then a third of it. It's pretty close either way.

[El Diablo]

schifty,

"a ton of hands that you have to bet here"

What does that mean? What are those hands and why does he have to bet them?

[El Diablo]

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"Strassa likes to call his money off with marginal holdings

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I believe that to be very much the case against decent players

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and puts up little resistance."

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I do not believe that to be the case.

[mikech]

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yea, exactly. What I also ment by it is TT doesnt fare great vs the overpair range, although getting the price he is, he doesnt need to beat "half" the range, just a little more then a third of it. It's pretty close either way.

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i don't think it's close at all. i haven't logged that many hands with diablo, and they were at full ring, so i suppose he could have a wider range here given this hand was at 6-max, but i have very seldom seen him stick his stack in without the goods. if he doesn't have JJ+ here, he has at least Ahxh. to call this you'd have to be hoping (praying) that diablo would do this with 99/88 or overcards without a flush draw, and he simply won't be on those hands often enough.