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Old 11-27-2007, 03:24 PM
infinity235 infinity235 is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - QJs big draw on flop

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Preflop is fine, its pretty thin but I dont think its terrible. On the flop, I raise and get all in in whatever way possible, you are ahead of every ace except AK in which you have 43% equity, more than compensated for by the bloated pot. If your opponent has a PP lower than JJ you are massive with 15 outs and are an equity favourite. You called preflop to hit this exact board, so get your money in.

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I think calling the 3 bet is really bad. at this level people arent likely to 3bet you light, and you tend to get in a lot of really marginal situations, for example a q 8 2 flop, that you would be better off avoiding imo.

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Playing QJs is more about flopping huge hands than playing a marginal TP. According to the 5-10 rule, the call was right as the raise was less than 10% of the effective stack, and got even better because the flop is 3-way and Hero is in position.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - QJs big draw on flop

I'm not a big fan of calling with JQs to a reraise preflop, but at least you're in position against multiple opponents. You have to be able to dump it against any pressure on a J or Q high flop, though.

Raise flop and try to get AI as soon as possible
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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I'm getting around 4:1 PF, fold?



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I know that many others have discussed this, but PF with a hand like this you're looking to hit on the flop and play for stacks. Therefore, immediate odds aren't relevant. Think implied odds.

In this hand, there's 2.1 in the pot with 0.55 to call, but opponents have 9.32 left and 8.85 left. You have implied odds of ~20:1 against both of the players. I haven't done the math, but these seem like reasonable odds to hit your perfect flop. I don't mind the PF call IP.

On the flop, I agree with raise/call shove.
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