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Old 11-30-2007, 01:29 AM
RockyElsom RockyElsom is offline
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

Well played. You still have redraws against some stuff, and donks make stupid random bluffs here soooo much.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

meh, i call.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

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I really don't understand this.

why don't u just push the flop if u think u'r good.

when the biggest scare card comes, u decide to call a massive bet.

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2d "biggest scare-card"? if he's bluffing and we call this line allows him to hang himself, if he's got worse he can get away from it on the Flop if we shove.

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I guess it wasn't clear, but I meant a diamond, not 2d specifically as being a scare card. do u REALLY think he CR bluffs this flop with air as often as he does with flush draw and sets?
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

i'm more afraid of AQ than a flush or set
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

looks like a fold to me, sets, AQ, AA, KK, flushes i can all see randomly played like this, we dont beat a whole lot but straight up bluffs, Ad (real unlikely) and maybe worse Qs if hes a real crazy fish, and we have to be good a lot with the overbet
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

small c/r + overbet shoves are bluffs a lot

either way you have enough equity against his range. i like
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

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nh.

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ty, expand?
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

those of you who are saying fold suck, villain was drawing to 2 outs here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

note to party regs: do not bluff me or you will lose, k thx
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

I suck....
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Villain shoves for 2x pot but i have top pair so i call

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those of you who are saying fold suck, villain was drawing to 2 outs here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

note to party regs: do not bluff me or you will lose, k thx

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so he was in fact bluffing (with a pocker pair i guess)? or did he go crazy with like QJ no diamond (which is obviously still a "bluff", basically, but some fish don't know better)
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