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Old 11-21-2007, 05:35 PM
Sibelius Sibelius is offline
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Default AQo hit top pair on river

SB is 50/11/0.8 over 80 hands

pf: hero is on the button A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
hero raises, SB calls, BB folds

flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, hero bets, SB calls

turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, hero checks

river: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets, hero raises...
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

if his agg factor is so low, what makes you think he's b/c a worse hand
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

i wouldn't raise the river because this guy bet into your AK but you actually only have a pair. also, i hate folding, and while he shouldn't 3-bet trips, he might just be dumb enough to do it on this board, and then i wouldn't get to see his hand.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

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if his agg factor is so low, what makes you think he's b/c a worse hand

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Well I value checked the turn, so he might be betting with
89, K9, QK, QJ, Q9, KJ, 99-66, A5. Wich gives me about 60-40 equity.

I'm also not quite sure what 0.8 AGF means with guy with 50VPIP. Or what it means with this sample size.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

yea his aggression factor is so low and he is not calling a worse hand to a raise, i think raising is very spewy here
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

Easy call imo.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

AF is pretty much meaningless over 80 hands. Also, wtf is with this talk of a 50/10 not calling a raise with worse? Of course he does. That being said I think calling is best here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

Seriously, given his stats I have no doubt he'll call with (much) worse, but I still would't have raised here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:00 PM
DrVanNostrin DrVanNostrin is offline
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

What was his river AF? Many of these 50/11 guys have flop and turn AFs of 0.2 and river AFs of 4. They feel obligated to bet this river after you showed weakness on the turn, even if it makes no sense. Anyway, I for one like the raise as long as it's safe to fold to a 3-bet. If you assume you get paid by any pair your equity vs. his calling range is makes it an easy value raise. There are so many more ways for him to have a Q, J, 5 or low pocket pair than there are a T.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: AQo hit top pair on river

i don't see why most people dislike raising so much. our opponent most likely can't hand read. he didn't "bet your AK", he has no clue what you might have and is betting as a bluff or because he has some piece of the board. if you raise he will often call with a worse hand and you can very comfortably fold to a 3-bet.

drvannostrin,

you shouldn't be asking what his river AF is. he only has 80 hands, even his total AF is almost meaningless.
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