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Old 08-25-2007, 12:45 AM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Confusion with overpairs, again.

Hi All-

Villain in this hand is a total unknown. These minraises are getting to be the goddamn death of me...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.50
BB: $49.50
UTG: $44.70
Hero (BTN): $50.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($5.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($21.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($30.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>,
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:51 AM
EricDarland EricDarland is offline
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

I'd probably 3 bet the flop. Bet about 20 on the river as played.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:55 AM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

3bet the flop, you are very rarely behind here.
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:02 AM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

3bet flop and look to get AI. If the board was somethin like JKK or J99 then it would be dif IMO. I really cant give much credit to a 3x hand here.
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:04 AM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

Out of curiosity, what specifically does 3-betting the flop accomplish?
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:07 AM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

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Out of curiosity, what specifically does 3-betting the flop accomplish?

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gets value from jacks and gives poor odds to a flushdraw.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

raise the turn.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: Confusion with overpairs, again.

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raise the turn.

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why would we raise the turn if it completes the FD?
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:54 PM
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raise the turn.

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why would we raise the turn if it completes the FD?

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because his range is so much wider than that. 3-betting flop is also okay, but i'm not going to [censored] myself once a fd comes out if i do call the flop.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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I'd probably 3 bet the flop. Bet about 20 on the river as played.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know how much calls on a paired three flush board that an overpair beats. I think I would take a showdown here with no reads
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