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Old 03-23-2007, 09:30 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: On your marks, get set, ARGUE!

Well, I thought it went without saying that the flop c/r against the BB on a paired board is bad. And also that if you're going to fold the river you can probably fold the turn for the same logic everyone has already stated. I still think you see random crap too much to fold, but I'll take back my fist pump comment.
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:18 PM
thwapperson thwapperson is offline
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Default Re: On your marks, get set, ARGUE!

What if he checked, would you have bet?
Since we just call the turn here, it really looks like we have a big hand here that has to value bet the river. And since it looks like you have to value bet the river, I think you have to call
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:33 PM
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i can see myself playing 8X just the way he played it. solid player isnt calling a flop raise without a hand and doesn't lead the turn with a draw or a 5. u have to see this hand from the villains point. If I was playing myself, I would fold the river.
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: On your marks, get set, ARGUE!

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when you guys hit trips on a flop, bet out, and get raised (and assuming you smooth call), how often do you lead out the turn once you hit quads?

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Always. Why ? Because u have to think the guy has a hand, and since he doesn't have an 8, leading is superrior against dumb people who never think u would lead with quads there.
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:01 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: On your marks, get set, ARGUE

I call. In addition to what has been discussed, the bettor may well be bluffing because he knows the last 8 is dead.
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:10 PM
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lol u called right
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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lol u called right

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No, I folded. I am hoping that villain will come on here and post results.

I didn't want to raise the flop, but I felt I had to with 3 players behind. In hindsight I hate the flop raise.
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:57 PM
TxRedMan TxRedMan is offline
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I think it's a must call based solely on the PF action and he figures you can't call unless you have a Q in your hand on the river.
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:22 PM
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I think it's a must call based solely on the PF action and he figures you can't call unless you have a Q in your hand on the river.

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That's funny because the Q didn't change anything.
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