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Old 11-12-2007, 05:58 PM
gusmahler gusmahler is offline
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Vince looked atrocious yesterday.

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His QB rating for the season went up after yesterday!
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:02 PM
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An even better page, QBs with a 0 passer rating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_qua...rating_of_zero

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I can't wait until Young makes that list 3 or 4 times before his career is over.

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Even Rex Grossman is only on the list once. It would take quite a talent to make it on the list 3-4 times.

But you got to love Grossman's game log:

http://www.nfl.com/players/rexgrossm...mp;season=2006

Last year, he had games of 10.2, 36.8, 1.3, and 0.0. And still kept his starting job.

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I think having a rating of 1.3 is more impressive than 0.0.
How the hell do you get a 1.3?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:18 PM
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Some people in this forum seriously need to learn why stats are used - to be applied, not as strict dogma.

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I don't think it's people in this forum. Most of us realize the QB rating is pretty piss-poor. What irks me about it is you get sports radio callers who think David Carr is a good QB because his QB rating is high because of his penchant for 4 yard horizontal passing and lamenting gun-slinging the ball downfield in fear of throwing an INT. [/quote

What I find perplexing is that Joe Sports Talk Radio doesn't mind using the complex, but flawed quarterback rating, but will demean and belittle those who use a very good statistic like VORP.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:15 PM
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FWIW, list of games with perfect QB ratings. Peyton has 4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_qua..._passer_rating

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Not only is Big Ben top 3, but this makes it clear that he's a top 2 QB in the NFL.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:17 PM
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And what about when you throw a 10 yard slant and someone runs 70 yards for the TD? This system makes you look so much better because of WR YAC.

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So does every statistic. DPAR doesn't seperate YAC either.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:24 PM
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QB's have more of an influence on YAC than the WR.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:59 PM
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QB's have more of an influence on YAC than the WR.

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I'd like to see some sort of proof for that.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:24 PM
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QB's have more of an influence on YAC than the WR.

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How so? I think YAC would come from good O. Coordinators and WR's. What does the QB have to do with it above putting the ball in the receivers chest?
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:26 PM
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Curious to see how Alex Smith does especially if you take away that last meaningless pass of the first half as time expired...
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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QB's have more of an influence on YAC than the WR.

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How so? I think YAC would come from good O. Coordinators and WR's. What does the QB have to do with it above putting the ball in the receivers chest?

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Catching a ball in stride can considerably affect YAC.

I'd have to see some evidence before I'd think THAY3R is right. My personal opinion is he's probably not, but I think it's quite possible he is.
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