tough spot with bottom 2

sh58 · #1 09-02-2007, 12:44 PM

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($198)
Hero ($407.05)
UTG ($200)
MP ($259.20)
CO ($221.10)
Button ($119.31)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $2, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, MP folds, SB raises to $39, Hero calls $27.

River: ($97) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $66, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $97

villain is Pie_Voleuse, pretty laggy but not out of line much postflop in unraised pot. (28/21/6.8) over 1500 hands. his AF is strange. 17/4/1.5. i expect him to be betting this flop with any reasonable piece, and i just called to keep the other guy in who was really bad (he had recently won a monster pot when he called 3 barells with A hi (no draw), and beat the other guys K hi. when he checked i assumed he had given up, but then he raised. his line really confused me.

it is hard to put him on a hand really, but it would be a weird spot for a bluff.

do you think a call is in order because his line makes no sense?

deaders · #2 09-02-2007, 12:48 PM

raise

the

flop

please.

As played fold the river.

sh58 · #3 09-02-2007, 12:55 PM

i didn't raise the flop because i wanted the idiot along for the ride who would presumably call with ATC here. the way i see it, i raise the flop, and usually win just what is in the pot, villain could have a wide range, so calling is far more profitable

sh58 · #4 09-02-2007, 12:56 PM

also deaders, what do you put him on here?

HoldEmNewby · #5 09-02-2007, 01:02 PM

His range in my mind is KQ,44,33 or a draw. I like how you played it till the river. I'd call.

deaders · #6 09-02-2007, 01:02 PM

44, 33, possibly KQ, mayyybe something like 56cc.

Bottom two isnt a hand to trap with and bring someone else along for the ride with.

HoldEmNewby · #7 09-02-2007, 01:05 PM

i agree with deaders on raising the flop and not trapping; i do like the turn though especially bet size.

capodu · #8 09-02-2007, 01:07 PM

everything is good, but you got to raise that flop. cant see a hand besides a bluff taht you will beat.

Jamougha · #9 09-02-2007, 01:39 PM

Your reasoning is good. You should have bet more on the turn with the station in the pot. Call the river and laugh at his 65s.

KingGeedorah · #10 09-02-2007, 01:42 PM

uhh isnt this a better two pair or something like always