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09-22-2006, 02:37 PM
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Re: River bet size with an overpair
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[ QUOTE ] Flop. Meh. the board isnt to scary so i dont mind the call as much but id like to be building a pot to get it all in. Turn. bet a little more. River. Push is fine. This is a hand where you really cant eff up an over pair. so nothing you do is horrendous. But you definitely want to focus on maximizing your EV here and getting all your money in the middle. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was taking a whiffed overs line with this hand. To clear something up, whether or not to bet the river isn't the question, obviously it's a vb. I just feel like I'm missing value on the river because when I make a smallish vb and they call I assume they would have called more, and when I push and they fold I feel like an idiot. I think I do like a push here though...my line really does look kinda like missed overs, and the desperate river push may very well get called by top pair. [/ QUOTE ] If you do the math, you might be suprised how rarely they have to call your push for that to be more +EV than just making a small VB on the end. They dont have to call very often at all. 
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09-22-2006, 03:05 PM
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Re: River bet size with an overpair
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Flop. Meh. the board isnt to scary so i dont mind the call as much but id like to be building a pot to get it all in. Turn. bet a little more. River. Push is fine. This is a hand where you really cant eff up an over pair. so nothing you do is horrendous. But you definitely want to focus on maximizing your EV here and getting all your money in the middle. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was taking a whiffed overs line with this hand. To clear something up, whether or not to bet the river isn't the question, obviously it's a vb. I just feel like I'm missing value on the river because when I make a smallish vb and they call I assume they would have called more, and when I push and they fold I feel like an idiot. I think I do like a push here though...my line really does look kinda like missed overs, and the desperate river push may very well get called by top pair. [/ QUOTE ] If you do the math, you might be suprised how rarely they have to call your push for that to be more +EV than just making a small VB on the end. They dont have to call very often at all. [/ QUOTE ] This is true and very important! The talk a lot about this in the book "NLHTP". AT calls [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img], I see 6 hands that might call but AT is a clear fold against a push. NP WP TY!
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