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Old 11-22-2007, 05:56 PM
SongheJe SongheJe is offline
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Default Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

Hello,
I posted some time ago an hand where I was spite called.. (before posting I didn't know the 'spite call' concept..)
I had many spite calls this period, but someone is really unexplainable for me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t4009)
Button (t4827)
Hero (t2214)
BB (t2450)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2164</font>, BB calls t1564.

Flop: (t3878) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3878) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3878) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3878
He won it with 9To

I'm pretty sure I didn't give impression to push ATC. I folded to him LOT of times with a wide pushing range because of terrible cards...
It was not a misclick.
He activated the timer, thinked about it and decided to call.
I really can't find how this can be +EV or a spite call.
I add he's a winning semi-regular.

Maybe people know I lose allins whatever I hold ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:05 PM
ZanDa ZanDa is offline
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

Was he multi-tabling?

Keep in mind that if he was on quite a few tables he may have used up all his time, tilted because of another table and then called you out of tilt.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:09 PM
Niggel Niggel is offline
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

If he puts you on ATC then calling T9o is still not +EV but T9s would be okay [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
It's just a bad beat and a bad call by Villian as well.
Just make a note that he calls loose (even on the bubble) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
He maybe realized that he gets pretty good pot-odds so he decided to gamble [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Deal with it !
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

If you are pushing 66%, it's a break even call. Villain probably thought you're shoving ATC here or maybe slightly removed from that folding out the bottom hands in a ATC range here. This isn't a spite call, but rather what he takes to be a +ev call. FWIW you should be shoving ATC here if he calls top 45%. At 50% call range, shove top 92 (0.2 min edge).
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

I can't understand the complaint. You got your money in really good. The poker gods smote you. BBV is over there -------&gt;
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

You got in as an 84% favorite. I like your chances there 5 out of 6 times.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

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You got in as an 84% favorite. I like your chances there 5 out of 6 times.

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OP's range doesn't like that call, though.
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:08 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

bee bee vee. im not folding this vs a reg and 3 bb's.
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

The thing is : you have 3 BBs and if you're not shoving ATC here, you have a reaaaaaaaaaaally serious leak in your game.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:05 AM
Fungahz Fungahz is offline
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Default Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.

Well, you two are the small stacks, with a significant difference to the other two players. He is looking for a confrontation with you, if anyone. If he folds then his situation really sucks.. Taking good pot odds, a half decent hand and your presumably huge pushing range I would call this as villain.
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