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Old 09-23-2007, 12:01 AM
Scansion Scansion is offline
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Default 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

Villain has not been doing much river check-raising, maybe three or four times over about 150 hands and I've payed him off once where he slowplayed a turned straight. Are we really going to just nit-call this?

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Button ($2735.50)
Hero ($3357.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button calls $5, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button calls $20.

Flop: ($60) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $240</font>,
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

This is a rough one. I think I'd nit-call.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

I think theres a bunch of value in making it 750ish and folding to a 4bet considering how deep you are. I think he'll call with almost all 9's, some [censored] fullhouses, and almost never push with a worse hand.

Also why didnt you bet flop or turn?
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

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I think theres a bunch of value in making it 750ish and folding to a 4bet considering how deep you are. I think he'll call with almost all 9's, some [censored] fullhouses, and almost never push with a worse hand.

Also why didnt you bet flop or turn?

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He is out of position with an underpair so he probably didn't want to build a big pot.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

You have to reraise this and fold to a 4 bet because you are very deep. If you weren't that deep, you would put him all in, but you have to reraise this. Your hand is just too strong to nit call.
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

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I think theres a bunch of value in making it 750ish and folding to a 4bet considering how deep you are. I think he'll call with almost all 9's, some [censored] fullhouses, and almost never push with a worse hand.

Also why didnt you bet flop or turn?

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He is out of position with an underpair so he probably didn't want to build a big pot.

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Yes and my c-bets have been called liberally. He's been doing this with a lot of big air and stuff.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

i think there is too much value in re raising, but you will probably puke if he four bets, if not deep i would shove.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

Villain limp called pre, then checked two streets only to raise river...

I dunno wtf he has, but there is tons of value here. Only hand I'm really worried about is J9 exactly.

Make it $600-$700 and re-evaluate to a push.

I think I can lay it down to a push.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

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Villain limp called pre, then checked two streets only to raise river...

I dunno wtf he has, but there is tons of value here. Only hand I'm really worried about is J9 exactly.

Make it $600-$700 and re-evaluate to a push.

I think I can lay it down to a push.

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After some more thought I'm changing my vote to this.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: 1000nl- Check-raised on the river with baby full

And I still don't think it is an automatic fold if villain pushes. Is he never doing this with a lone 9?
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