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Old 09-15-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

Read on villain: Semi-solid postflop, calls 3bets with almost ATC. He has called about 90%+ of my 3bets. He tends to favor connector/gapper type hands. He seems to shut down very quickly without a hand when I c-bet.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (BB): $845.80
SB: $265.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.00</font>, SB calls $14.00

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $31.00</font>, SB calls $31.00

Turn: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $88.00</font>, Hero???

I really think the turn is critical. In other hands he'd call flop, then check behind on turn with small pieces of the flop, which was a big motivation for me to check, not to mention that his 3b calling/flop c-bet calling range is very entangled with the board.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

I'd just put him in. Calling then folding to the river bet is weak and folding here is out of the question IMO. I suppose calling then calling the river bet is an option as well, but he might not get his money in if he misses a draw.

Edit: I like leading out here more.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

I would lead this turn and stack-a-donk as played. You have decent outs when behind against anything bar AhAx. He will have a hand you dominate or a bluff more than noraml here given the board texture. Only reason to be very concerned is if he is normally very passive.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

He is normally very passive in this spot.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

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He is normally very passive in this spot.

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Then just call. Although it will take super good disipline to check-fold river you will need to UI as passives do not bet allin when a flush is possible without one.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

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He is normally very passive in this spot.

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Then just call. Although it will take super good disipline to check-fold river you will need to UI as passives do not bet allin when a flush is possible without one.

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River: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero?
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

Check and call small bets only and fold to anything over 1/2 pot. Against any resonable player I would go with it but passives just dont make big bets without the goods and he would not count anything you beat as "the goods".

In actually game time though the fold is super tough to do. One of the reasons I moved to HU was because I am a station in these type of spots and kept getting taken to value-town. In playing HU I decided I wouldn't be wrong so often in calling down in marginal spots and you can assume they are FOS more often. So I don't hate a call but don't expect you to be good very often.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

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Check and call small bets only and fold to anything over 1/2 pot. Against any resonable player I would go with it but passives just dont make big bets without the goods and he would not count anything you beat as "the goods".

In actually game time though the fold is super tough to do.

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Yes it is... this is why my gut was telling me to just fold turn.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

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Check and call small bets only and fold to anything over 1/2 pot. Against any resonable player I would go with it but passives just dont make big bets without the goods and he would not count anything you beat as "the goods".

In actually game time though the fold is super tough to do.

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Yes it is... this is why my gut was telling me to just fold turn.

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I don't see how you can fold the turn as he could be "protecting" with a hand you beat and your flush draw and king outs could very well be good.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: NL CASH $200, KK vs villain who calls almost all 3b

cch/raise push turn. Open push river- you're not folding and his calling range is bigger than his betting range.
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