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Old 09-18-2007, 08:33 PM
KexChoklad123 KexChoklad123 is offline
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Default What do I have? NLCASH

So, when you bluff you want to take a line that looks like you have it. When you value bet you would prefer that it looks like a bluff.

Without a specific read, what would you think I'm doing in this hand?

My opponent limps, I pot, he calls. 100bb stacks

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I pot, he calls

Turn T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, he bets 2/3 or pot, I move in

In general, air, semibluff or push for value?
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: What do I have?

In my experience the weakest that takes this line is usually AT.

I suppose 5d3d or 7d5d might take this line, as well as any combination of 7d8d9d.

This is usually the "I have a strong hand and don't want to see the river" line.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: What do I have?

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In my experience the weakest that takes this line is usually AT.

I suppose 5d3d or 7d5d might take this line, as well as any combination of 7d8d9d.

This is usually the "I have a strong hand and don't want to see the river" line.

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What is the lowest part of your flop calling range that you call all in with?
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: What do I have?

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In my experience the weakest that takes this line is usually AT.

I suppose 5d3d or 7d5d might take this line, as well as any combination of 7d8d9d.

This is usually the "I have a strong hand and don't want to see the river" line.

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What is the lowest part of your flop calling range that you call all in with?

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So on a rainbow board this most likely is a value push?
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: What do I have?

TT+, ATdd, 44, 66


but its really hard without knowing what you raise a limp with from the bb.

With sets you take the strongarm line cause unless villain is retarded hes not gonna pay you off on the river if you call. With JJ+ you are perfectly protecting your hand without pushing weaker hands off. With ATdd youre doing both of it.



mh... the more I think about what I just wrote the senseless it sounds. whatever, ...
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:19 PM
imfatandugly imfatandugly is offline
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Default Re: What do I have?

in my experience this is almost never a 6 or a set. Most of the time I'd expect to see tk,ta,jj plus. Maybe 25 percent a flush draw w two overs/gutshot and ten percent air (aq, ak) figuring its hard for villian to call w out a six and its ok if they call w a draw. These percentages obviously change a whole bunch according to buyin/ tempo and villian in general.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: What do I have?

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In my experience the weakest that takes this line is usually AT.

I suppose 5d3d or 7d5d might take this line, as well as any combination of 7d8d9d.

This is usually the "I have a strong hand and don't want to see the river" line.

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What is the lowest part of your flop calling range that you call all in with?

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This really strongly depends on the villain. I've seen players show up with AK/AQ here a few times, but it would take a pretty nasty read for me to call anything less than T9 here.

Edit: My first reply is assuming this is an "average" villain. I'd stretch the limits of what I would call with pretty far depending on how much of a donkey I'm up against.
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