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Old 11-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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What kind of parlayed long shots would you need to see come in before you began to think it was more likely the universe was designed rather than emerged?


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are we counting how close 389.17 and 400.67 are as a coincidence?
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:55 PM
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are we counting how close 389.17 and 400.67 are as a coincidence?

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No, the numbers were only stated to explain why one observes this:



The coincidence that bothers me is that the moon appears to exactly cover the sun at the same time humans appear on the planet. The actual numbers are not meaningful to the casual observer. In this discussion the actual numbers are only useful to people who want to ignore what is obvious.

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Old 11-11-2007, 06:56 PM
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That we have a reason to invent the word 'eclipse' bothers you?

Seriously?
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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The coincidence that bothers me is that the moon appears to exactly cover the sun at the same time humans appear on the planet.

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you mean the coincidence that you want other people to be bothered by? the one you don't think is a coincidence and doesn't really bother you?
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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are we counting how close 389.17 and 400.67 are as a coincidence?

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No, the numbers were only stated to explain why one observes this:



The coincidence that bothers me is that the moon appears to exactly cover the sun at the same time humans appear on the planet. The actual numbers are not meaningful to the casual observer. In this discussion the actual numbers are only useful to people who want to ignore what is obvious.

Stu

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Don't you have a pic where the moon exactly covers the sun? That'd be a better start.

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Old 11-11-2007, 07:12 PM
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That we have a reason to invent the word 'eclipse' bothers you?

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No Hitch1978, I am not bother that we had to invent a word to describe one celestial object passing in front of another celestial object. I'm bothered by the fact that during a typical solar eclipse observed on from the earth, the moon exactly covers the sun.


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Old 11-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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That we have a reason to invent the word 'eclipse' bothers you?

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No Hitch1978, I am not bother that we had to invent a word to describe one celestial object passing in front of another celestial object. I'm bothered by the fact that during a typical solar eclipse observed on from the earth, the moon exactly covers the sun.


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I apologise.

I am clearly misunderstanding something, could you please define the word 'exactly' as used in your post.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:14 PM
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And preferably if he could give us a rough estimate of "all the possible things in the universe" so we could get a better idea as to whether this coincidence is really that amazing. If there are only like 10 possible things in the universe, the fact that one of them is this DOES seem like a pretty huge coincidence.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:26 PM
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And preferably if he could give us a rough estimate of "all the possible things in the universe" so we could get a better idea as to whether this coincidence is really that amazing. If there are only like 10 possible things in the universe, the fact that one of them is this DOES seem like a pretty huge coincidence.

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I'm not sure even that works. Some card has to be on top of the deck.

For a coincident to act as an alert to a new understanding it needs to go against some framework expectation. The Jack of Spades appearing as the top card in the only deck that we gave to Jack Shovel does nothing for my sense of wonder.

The moon covering 'exactly' :-) all the sun, one half of the sun, or double the sun, or 1/pi of the sun or all the sun except an area the size of pluto, or ...
None of those violate any postion/size of the moon expectations and so stir no 'hmmmmmmm....' moments.

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Old 11-11-2007, 09:29 PM
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And yet I'd be pretty impressed if "vhawk" was emblazoned in moon dust on the dark side.
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