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Old 06-25-2007, 11:33 AM
Orsman Orsman is offline
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Default How to exract most value? (200 NL)

No reads on villain, I haven't seen him before

$200 NL, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($191.80)
SB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($208.05)</font>
BB ($323.40)
UTG UTG ($167.88)
UTG+1 ($200)
CO ($174.70)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 6, 3 folds, Hero raises to 17, 1 fold, UTG calls 12.

Flop (38) A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn (38) Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 24, UTG calls 24.

River (86) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero ?????

what is the best way to extract most value in theese situations?
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:34 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

bet, he'll raise with the flush and still call with an ace
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:39 AM
joeblack joeblack is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

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bet, he'll raise with the flush and still call with an ace

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QFT. $60-65 is good.
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:47 AM
ArgusSpets ArgusSpets is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

id do 50ish... raise more PF? 21?!
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

i do 38. this is because:
- if he hits flush, he has to raise. if you had bet $60 he may even just call with non-nut flush, who knows.. he could be smart
-if he hit 8, he has to raise as well.
- if he has ace, he calls for sure.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:07 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

If he is smart and you bet big, he will put u on AA/QQ/AQ who was slowplaying...

But I hope a hero call and I bet 60$.

Maybe try a CRAI vs an aggressiv opponent, but he looks passiv on this hand.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:10 PM
Tony_Sopran0 Tony_Sopran0 is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

i bet $70 and hope to get raised.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

open push watch him snap call with any flush
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Sphere99991 Sphere99991 is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

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open push watch him snap call with any flush

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I like this actually. If he has the flush, $$$. Problem is he might fold an A.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:22 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: How to exract most value? (200 NL)

Raise more preflop, bet more on the turn, then this OP wouldn't exist. (same thing if you had only bet more on the turn)
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