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Old 11-01-2007, 02:59 PM
bussolini bussolini is offline
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Default NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

Villain pretty solid over ~100 hands with 22/16/1,8. Havenīt seen him making a move. Anyone 4betting? Same problem when he flatcalls,no?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $78.45
BB: $64.35
UTG: $24.75
MP: $60.15
Hero (CO): $102.85
BTN: $52.85

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($10.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($52.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???

Fold to flop-checkraise? I just canīt handle the "ladies".

Help plz and comments on evry street appreciated!
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:05 PM
Milky Milky is offline
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

I probably just shove over his flop c/r. If he has AA/KK so be it.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:06 PM
bussolini bussolini is offline
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

for 320 BB ?
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

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for 320 BB ?

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SB's stack size is the only one that matters and he's only got like $54 after his raise so any reasonable reraise is going to put him all-in (assuming I did my maths right).
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:10 PM
WhskyRiv WhskyRiv is offline
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

A possible 4bet pf could've helped you avoid this decision, but calling pf isn't terrible. You've gotta bet more on the flop, at least a pot sized bet. For this situation, I would say make it 13 to 15. When you're check raised there you've got to make a decision to move all in, or lay it down, calling does nothing for you. I look at other PT numbers at this point such as % the villain went to a showdown, % of pots won, etc. This helps narrow his range. Also think back to other hands that you've seen him play, did he have certain tendencies. As played I probably lay this down on the turn.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:38 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

I dont like 4 bet pf at all as you have to fold if you get shoved on here. I honestly can find a fold here on the flop against someone with those stats. He seems very tagg-ish so Im not sure what hands you beat that hes doing that with. It looks like he thinks you have an overpair and hes trying to get your stack in the middle. IME, when pf bettors c/r, its usually a very strong hand. I think his range is heavily weighted towards AA, KK, and AKdd. I say this also due to his tiny raise pre flop. So many times I see people either min 3 betting or making very small 3 bets with AA and KK thinking theyre trapping you.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:40 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

calling the flop is the worse play available. I think alot of times I am shoving here if he has AA or KK well her played it a bit weird I will make a note and move on.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: NL50 (bit deep): What to do with my QQ ?

when a guy 3bets pf and then checks to you on an 874 board, you're usually about to get c/r'ed.
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