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Old 08-03-2007, 02:32 AM
geormiet geormiet is offline
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I just got some money in stars so I'm finally getting started with NL.

Fired up some .5/1 tables tonight...after 1 hour I have

-gotten it in pf with QQ vs. AK and lost
-gotten stacked by 44. vs. my AK on an A4x board in pf 3 bet pot (44 called off 1/3 his stack before the flop)
-got it in on the turn with a flush, lost to rivered fh


Its weird, i feel a very different kind of tilt feeling than
I do when I lose some pots in limit...
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:15 AM
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Default KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA

That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.

Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.25
UTG+1: $142.35
MP1: $60
MP2: $116.20
CO: $96.50
Button: $68.15
Hero: $21.40
BB: $101.75

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $34.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $11.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $13.1 returned to MP2.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)


Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)


River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $43.8)


Results:
Final pot: $43.8

Results below:
<font color="#ffffff">MP2 showed Kc Ac</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Kd Kh</font>
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA

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That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.

Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders.



[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, there are surely a lot of people who would consider folding KK with ~20 bb stacks...
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default i got me a boat

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($200)
CO ($247)
Hero ($376)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($250.25)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $42.

River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $139 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139.

Final Pot: $497

[4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: i got me a boat

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($200)
CO ($247)
Hero ($376)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($250.25)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16.

Turn: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $42.

River: ($219) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $139 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $139.

Final Pot: $497

[4d 4c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours

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Comments on the turn play please.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: i got me a boat

hey guys im back from my holiday wich was fantastic, I have to take care of some stuff and after that I will be active on this forum making a start to NL so wish me luck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
viva la france [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: i got me a boat

oh boy

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

SB: $22.85
BB: $69.05
UTG: $51.25
MP: $58.05
CO: $117.55
Button: $39.25

MP posts a blind of $1

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $1, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $4</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($18.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($18.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $9</font>, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $26</font>, Button folds, SB calls $9.85 (all in).

Final Pot: $55.70

Results:
<font color="#FFFFFF">
SB shows 7h, 7c (two pair, Sevens and Threes).
Hero shows Kd, 9d (two pair, Nines and Threes).
Outcome: ($55.70 Rake)
</font>


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Button: $48.50
SB: $64.55
BB: $56.20
UTG: $48.55
MP: $144.70
CO: $98.50

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">UTG bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1, BB folds.

Turn: ($5.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">UTG bets $4</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, UTG calls $10.

Final Pot: $39.50

Results:
<font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG mucks 5d, Qc.
Hero mucks Jd, 9d.
Outcome: Hero wins $37.55.
($1.95 Rake)
</font>
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Old 08-03-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: i got me a boat

sup, I used to play limit and the short handed limit forums taught me how to play before i became an nl nit so ill prob be posting alot here if i rememebr, i play 400-1knl nowadays so if you have anyquestions post here or you can pm me and such
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: i got me a boat

Thx for doing this, Wook. Great idea.
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: KK - He raised, I reraised and he pushed - Surely he has AA

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
That is the argument that is usually given for those who want to fold KK pre-flop.

Well, maybe this hand will be a lesson to all the folders.



[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, there are surely a lot of people who would consider folding KK with ~20 bb stacks...

[/ QUOTE ]
Is this one better?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($2.75)
Hero ($19.30)
SB ($13.40)
BB ($30.45)
UTG ($9.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.75</font>, BB calls $0.60, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $10.55</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, SB calls $3.60 (All-In).

Flop: ($29.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($29.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($29.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $29.10

Results in white below:
SB has Qh Js (one pair, eights).
Hero has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $34.95.
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