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Old 11-29-2007, 01:53 PM
fsoyars fsoyars is offline
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Default Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

CO has open min raised from LP a few times already. The BTN is unknown. I've been aggressive but not out of line. Is this good or bad?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
(Ante: t25)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t4495
UTG+1: t4015
MP1: t21690
MP2: t22511
MP3: t3102
CO: t6000
Button: t6160
SB: t13595
Hero: t7113

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t600</font>, Button calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1275)</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t7088</font>
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

If CO has been doing it frequently AND you's seen BTN call before (not necessarily CO, but just anyone) then I like it.

If BTN is a known player, not so much.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

God this is so much better with a hand that has some sort of equity when called.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

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God this is so much better with a hand that has some sort of equity when called.

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Well, yeah, but if CO has been continually min-raising and BTNs chips in there too it's a great spot regardless of cards, but it still all comes down to your read on BTN's flat-call so it's tough for us to say.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

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God this is so much better with a hand that has some sort of equity when called.

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Thats why you do it when he won't call, like this hand.

nh
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

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God this is so much better with a hand that has some sort of equity when called.

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Well, yeah, but if CO has been continually min-raising and BTNs chips in there too it's a great spot regardless of cards, but it still all comes down to your read on BTN's flat-call so it's tough for us to say.

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BTN was relatively new to the table and hadn't been very active that's why I didn't have much of a read on him. So, with a solid read on CO but nothing on BTN, is this good or bad?
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

Is it bad that this never even crosses my mind? I see 82o and auto-click fold... I would pull this with some kind of suited connector, this just seems bad to me.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

agree with pudge even a hand like acerag suited would be much better to do this with. Or if you were a little shallower so you were risking less but had basically the same amount of FE then this would be better, but I dont think this is +EV
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

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agree with pudge even a hand like acerag suited would be much better to do this with. Or if you were a little shallower so you were risking less but had basically the same amount of FE then this would be better, but I dont think this is +EV

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LOL really? Ax has better equity than 28 when called? NO F-ING WAY!!!!



And yes, I think you pass up a ton of value if you don't sometimes utilize spots like these. Without a read on BTN I'm not sure I could do it with 28, suited connectors or broadways might make it a little easier it's tough to shove 28o with absolutely no read.

Still tho, if you have aboslutely no history with BTN and he's a complete random, I don't think a shove is BAD.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

man u suck, all i was saying is that a hand that is often dominated when called like Ax would be a much better choice because it does better vs 88,99,TT especially no need to be a dick about it
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