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Old 11-23-2007, 10:42 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t34954)
SB (t25624)
BB (t126830)
UTG (t30813)
MP1 (t24567)
Hero (t46873)
CO (t7123)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3000</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t2000.

Flop: (t5600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t5600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t5600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t2000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t5600

im 2nd in chips in tourn this only guy who can hurt me. i think that made preflop a fold yes? now this draw board . i made up my mind to just give up and pick a better spot. comments? villain pretty aggro. top 36 get paid. we may have between 30 and 45 players left here. $8 360 max
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

I think as played its not too bad. If villain is aggro then you might've been c/r here. If you really wanted to know where you were at and put villain on a pretty loose range out of his BB then you could C-Bet this flop for ~T4200 or so. To be honest against a villain with this chip count at this point in the tourney who is pretty aggro I probably just fold PF.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

If you're scared of him as an aggro fold pre-flop but once you get to the flop I fon't think you can just give up. Your hand is essentially a bluff so I'm firing as a bluff on the flop or most certainly when he checks again to me on the turn, but probably flop. Shut down if any action but i just think that if you're going to raise pre with A6 then you should be betting any flop checked to you.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

This is a good example of way you need a post flop plan before your initial raise. Were you just hoping to hit the flop then see what happens? If you are not prepared to follow through with a continuation bet in this situation because of the opponent, then you are better off folding pre flop.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:59 AM
McMelchior McMelchior is offline
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

I'm a notoriously weak nit, but I don't raise here pf with less than A8o. A6o is a hand that's really got nothing going for it - and a lot against it - if you get action.

A flop c-bet of say 4,500 is a matter of taste, I guess.

On the river villian bets 2,000 into a 7.200 pot. Unless your table image is ultra-weak I cant see him doing that with any hand you beat, and I can't see you repping a slowplayed monster after checking that flop and turn.

As played c/f if fine.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:27 PM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

Yeah, c-bet flop for sure or dont be in the hand, and I actually consider calling the river bet, because we are ahead anough of the time to make it worthwhile.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

If you're worried about the CL, who is in the BB, then don't raise his blind with A6o. I'd fold pf, due to a hatred of unsuited ace rag.

As played pf, c-bet flop for t4,000 or something then shut down.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

if you're not willing to c-bet when you miss, fold pre. I really don't like stealing a deep stacks blind with this type of hand. Id rather do it with a 75s for obvious reasons.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

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if you're not willing to c-bet when you miss, fold pre.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not exactly. There couldn't really be a worse board to c-bet than this one.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: i\'m playing too passively against chip leader?

I think a strong c-bet after the flop would have won the hand aginst a shorter stack. But with villians huge chip advantage I'm with you, I fold.
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