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Old 11-23-2007, 07:10 AM
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I'd call for sure. You're getting 14:3 and we know Scotty's capable of some crazy [censored].
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:52 AM
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I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..

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Rid Odds + he's aggro post-flop odds + capable of weird lines/bluffs + so many draws he can put you on on the turn.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:00 AM
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so many draws he can put you on on the turn.

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Why is he raising if he puts us on a busted draw? Sure, he can get here with unpaired cards, but not that often and it's not really that worth his while trying to get us to fold 7+draw by check-min-raising.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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I really doubt Scotty's ever bluffing here, like you said, his post flop play is v solid. Think I'd fold.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:42 AM
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I'd call here pretty quickly.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

I've played with Scotty a couple times. Every time I've seen him make a small or min-raise, pre or post-flop, he's had a huge hand. On the other side of the scale is a very weird line that doesn't make sense for any hand except 77. Very tough spot, in the absence of any other information, I'd fold.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:22 AM
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if he had 77 he played the hand very well imo.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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I can't imagine folding this we need to be good 1:7. From Scotty's perspective this is an incredibly drawy board there's KJ, diamonds, 78, spades, J9 even AJ and they all missed so given his read on you(I dunno how old you are but your image could easily be aggro internet kid) he probably expects you to have air fairly often. I also wouldn't be shocked to see him show up with AA/KK/AQ here. I don't really love this spot but getting like 7:1 I don't think I can find a fold.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:53 AM
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Call. Hate poker.

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I like this best.

He's laying us huge odds to call with all of our made range.

I repeat, why is he raising if he's snapping off bluffs?

I think we have to call because it has to be a thin value bet from a worse hand often enough but I really don't think this is ever a bluff. What's he going to succeed in bluffing us off?
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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I call but would be in the mildly to moderately surprised camp if I was good.
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