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Old 11-17-2007, 02:07 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Simple preflop decision?

I'm in the process of reading PNL for the first time (just getting to Planning around commitment), and I don't have enough sense in me to even know where to begin thinking in this situation.

Second orbit and no interesting reads.

Using REM doesn't really help me right now because I don't know what range to use.

I am about as deep as PFR, I own the button, and he raised two early position limpers. This makes me think I don't want to make a huge preflop reraise, especially because I don't even know if (at these stakes) I am anywhere likely to obtain the good results of isolating the raiser or taking it down preflop. So I just call and take a flop?

PokerStars $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em - 8 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

BB: $1.48
UTG: $1.60
UTG+1: $4.97
MP1: $2.98
MP2: $7.63
CO: $1.74
Button: $2.96
SB: $5.10

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <font color="#FF0000">MP1 raises to $0.10</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $0.10...
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

I think one of the problems here could be that your opponents are not necessarily thinking about relative $ but absolute $ instead.

The other day I wanted to set up my HUD layout for Stars NL and bought in @ 2NL with $1 and just hang in there until I had my layout just so. I emerged 6 orbits later 50c poorer.

The great thing about the book is, at my level, that I can just study the Basics, Fundamentals, Range, Equity....and leave the last pages (SPR) for later when I'm ready for it (hopefully before March when Vol II comes out).
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

Generally I would "3bet" to about $0.30 in this situation.

What I like about this:
1. You have position and you want to raise more often in position
2. You are creating a favorable SPR if you flop top pair. If just the raiser calls, the pot is $0.60 which gives you an SPR around 4 or 5. Great for an easy commitment decision whether you flop TPTK+ or a good draw. If all of them call, well they're idiots and you know you have a good game.
3. You smash everyone's implied odds
4. You usually get either VALUE, isolation, or the pot
5. You can probably fold to a push


What you might not like:
"They'll only call with a better hand"
but that might not be the case. Often MP1 will call with a wide range of holdings especially at these stakes.


Now if you smooth call and the limpers (+blinds?) call then it's not bad either. The pot would be around $.50 which also gives you an SPR around 5. In this case, you've given better odds to the crappy hands to flop two pair but OTOH you let in the ace-rags that will pay you off.
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

This is an easy 3 bet PF. If they all fold, fine, if not, fine. I would shovel my money in with this hand PF.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

Definitely standard to 3bet here. I like all of man of means' reasons, especially 2. Get the pot big so you're not afraid to commit with TPTK.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

I really want to raise this to force out the two limpers. I would also like to see if the original raiser comes back over the top at me.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

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I really want to raise this to force out the two limpers. I would also like to see if the original raiser comes back over the top at me.

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Word.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop decision?

really standard pf 3bet; make it .37 or so
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