Am I out of line here?

[n.s.]

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...including telling me that he would "f***ing kick my a** outside", until I finally left for the night.

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You definitely screwed up, but this should also have gotten this kid thrown out. It's not acceptable to physically threaten a player at the table, and I've seen players thrown out for this.

[lmcjaho]

SOSA or "Nice river suckout!" when he showed you the 10s would have been better, but the other guy was obviously a douche so no big deal...

[SA125]

I'd like to hear from Randy if that player saying he has the best hand violates the one player to a hand rule. The call had been made and he voluntarily showed him.

A good while ago I saw the best hand folded without saying anything and made a post about it here. Everyone said I should have said something. The hand had been tabled and the dealer either didn't see it or screwed him. I guess the big difference in the view points is that here the hand hadn't been tabled.

The best part of the post is that it's NL100 and the kid, like many in that game, has sunglasses on. Love the WSOP mentality you see playing for less than the cost of dinner at a good restaurant. I know it's real money for them but it's still too funny.

[RR]

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I'd like to hear from Randy if that player saying he has the best hand violates the one player to a hand rule.

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Yes.

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The hand had been tabled and the dealer either didn't see it or screwed him. I guess the big difference in the view points is that here the hand hadn't been tabled.


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When a player turns their hand face up on the table they are making a claim for the pot.

[Jack Bando]

Think of it like this:If someone's hand hasn't been turned up yet, they still have one move left - turn it up or not. Telling the guy he has the best hand helps him make this decision, and you can't help another player make decisions regarding how he should play his cards.

If they were face up and the pot was going to the other guy, there's no more decisions left, the hand is over, the wrong guy's getting the pot, which is bad for the integrity of the poker game, speak up!

Re: the guy you accidently screwed. Tell him "I made a mistake, I didn't know it was agaisnt the rules to speak up. Sorry."

He threatens you again/swears at you, call floor+security. (Although I think floor would call security if they agree he needs to be tossed.)

[Bobbo539]

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between the guy to my left who I was chatting with occasionally all night and another youngish guy accross the table with sunglasses who seemed to think he was the best player in LA.

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Ruling right.
You wrong.
Hope your attitude toward the two players involved wasn't the real reason you opened your mouth.

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I added this part because in hindsight I think it made a difference in my descision to speak up. I was really wishing I hadn't said anything afterwards, but it was one of those situations where if I had waited one second his cards are in the muck, so I didn't logically think about it. I guess the only thing to do now is learn from the mistake, I doubt it was a life changing amount of money for either.

[MicroBob]

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A good while ago I saw the best hand folded without saying anything and made a post about it here. Everyone said I should have said something. The hand had been tabled and the dealer either didn't see it or screwed him.

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I'm surprised that you didn't already know this.
Isn't this simply a situation where 'cards-speak' is in effect here and that even players not involved in the hand have an obligation to uphold the integrity of the game?

Seems pretty obvious to me and I don't even play live very often.

Correcting an obvious dealer mistake is completely different from trying to give advice to a player during a hand.

[DeuceKicker]

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Id have said "show one show all, you gotta show it down now dude".

[/ QUOTE ]Saying you have the best hand is against the rules, pointing out that since he showed you, he must now show everyone is following the rules. They both have the same outcome, but former is wrong and the latter is correct.

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Not the same outcome. If someone invokes the "show one, show all" rule while the hand is still in progress, but the cards were shown to someone not in the hand, those cards should be set aside until after the hand is over, then shown to the table.

[Off Duty]

Wow. I learned something.

Thanks for the post OP.

[kantu]

"I play at Hollywood Park Casino In LA ..." how can you be out of line in LA. You can do , say and act anyway you want there.
i stopped reading right there and will answer, no you weren't out of line.