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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It forces me to play disciplined poker [/ QUOTE ] And why did you minraise with KJ then [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Regarding your question: maybe the reraise actually is a sign of weakness. Beat: you don't have a hand. Just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Your right....I know it APPEARS that I am playing Super Loose right there. However, all my decisions are based upon the play of the table. And believe me when I say that the table was a "Fish Tank"....Now Im no shark, wouldnt even classify myself as a barracuda as of yet, but I can spot weakness & my instinct was to exploit it. [/ QUOTE ] Uhmmm...MP is simply exploiting the "weakness" you showed preflop. |
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
OK....I see everyones point regarding my sh!tty little preflop raise...& I did consider making the normal 3-5BB preflop raise BUT I just so happen to be running on a streak were I opened the last 6 out 9 pots with a 3xBB raise. I noticed that everyone was pretty much folding to my preflop raises after awhile so I thought making the initial preflop raise a little less, I would see some decent action and get some callers.
Here is the hand in its entirety Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $13.75 BB: $16.75 UTG: $7.80 MP: $21.85 Hero (CO): $11.30 BTN: $27.90 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.55</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $0.30 Flop: ($1.45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.45</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $3.60</font>, Hero calls $2.15 Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to MP Turn: ($8.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $8.65</font>, Hero calls all-in for $7.15 Uncalled bet of $1.50 returned to MP River: ($22.95) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $22.95 ($1.10 Rake) MP had 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$11.30) Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Jacks) and WON (+$10.55) |
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
Any thoughts on how this hand progressed???
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
Well obv you post this because you're proud of your read :P I suppose you must think that villain is getting frisky with a weak hand with his quick re-raise in frustration that you're running over the table? That makes sense I suppose. Though, when you floated that flop what is your action if you don't improve on the turn? Shut down and lose a large portion of your stack? Sure he can be weak, but if he shoves, are you gonna call him down with K-high? If you're trying to play solid poker by short-stacking and playing tight and optimal strategy, don't often make plays like this. Remember the mantra; just pitch it and wait for a better spot.
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
Yea, everyone was right. Raise more pre to get hands like Q6 to fold. When you c bet(good in that spot) and get minraised, you are most likely beat with at most 6 outs.
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
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Well obv you post this because you're proud of your read :P I suppose you must think that villain is getting frisky with a weak hand with his quick re-raise in frustration that you're running over the table? That makes sense I suppose. Though, when you floated that flop what is your action if you don't improve on the turn? Shut down and lose a large portion of your stack? Sure he can be weak, but if he shoves, are you gonna call him down with K-high? If you're trying to play solid poker by short-stacking and playing tight and optimal strategy, don't often make plays like this. Remember the mantra; just pitch it and wait for a better spot. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. If I didnt improve on the turn I was going to "exit stage right". Normally, I dont like to play this loose but I felt that the villian was trying to make a move on me so I reasoned that a countermove was in order. Thanks for the reply. |
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
Not to rain on the parade here, but you played the hand poorly and got lucky. If you get in the habit of calling raises of your c-bet with nothing, you're going to be sad.
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
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This struck me as very strange & my initial read was that it was a bluff. I decided to call & tread carefully thereafter. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe villain is bluffing but you canīt beat a bluff yourself. Unless you plan on showing down K high. Calling off 20% of your stack hoping for a 6 outer is gross. |
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
He really wasn't making a move considering his hand was better than yours on the flop. I think calling his flop raise is just spewing money. If you strongly suspected that he was bluffing, why didn't you re-raise or push on the flop? If you just call, obviously you can't get him to fold.
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Re: KJ reads Q6 immediate reraise as weak....plz share ur thoughts
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He really wasn't making a move considering his hand was better than yours on the flop. I think calling his flop raise is just spewing money. If you strongly suspected that he was bluffing, why didn't you re-raise or push on the flop? If you just call, obviously you can't get him to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed... maybe he WAS making a move, but even if he was, what can you beat? Q high? You can't call his raise when you can't even beat a typical bluff (e.g. A high) or semi-bluff. |
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