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Old 02-15-2007, 03:30 PM
Brad1970 Brad1970 is offline
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

I don't know what limits you are playing, but keep in mind that some people will play 80%-100% of their dealt hands regardless of their starting cards (especially at the lower limits). They have no strategy, no starting hand requirements, no hand reading ability, just dumb plain luck. Their motto is "you can't win the hand if you're not in the hand". These are the people you want to play!!!!

Hang in there. The variance will swing back.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:01 PM
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If you are playing a guy that is calling with Queen high and you have paired your door card Ace, dont leave that game.....EVER! You are in a very +EV game, dont leave and the tide will change.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:04 PM
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The thing we learn most about during downswings is our selves and our weaknesses. During my latest slump I have (and still am) dropped down levels to where I can feel comfortable with losing sessions. All the while I question myself about every play, even the ones that I seemed to make on autopilot (especially the autopilot plays). For example, where I would aggressively play a small edge with a vulnerable hand in an early street I now wait for a later street to make the most out of winners while losing the least. Too many of our mistakes are made without thinking; they became part of our game when we were winning that kept us from winning more. I think this is the time we learn the most about playing the game profitably.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

Brad-

What makes your statement so funny and true is that there was that player sitting in between you and me at FTP's 3/6 stud table last night who was playing exactly as you describe...and somehow was managing to win, albeit not very much.

When I see players like this actually fold on 3rd street it makes me wonder how bad their hand has to be before they will fold. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:22 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Brad-

What makes your statement so funny and true is that there was that player sitting in between you and me at FTP's 3/6 stud table last night who was playing exactly as you describe...and somehow was managing to win, albeit not very much.

When I see players like this actually fold on 3rd street it makes me wonder how bad their hand has to be before they will fold. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Yeah I know. I made one really crappy 6th street call with pair of Q's, gutshot str8 draw, & flush draw into his Aces full. Didn't improve & had to fold. If that is the same guy....couldn't put him on a hand for nothing.

I have been seeing alot of play like that recently but I have not been getting any cards to fight back with. I'll get 1 middle pair per hour & when I do, the other 2 outs are someone else's door card. I basically have no hand & no draw when it has been raised, reraised, & cold called twice and I'm card dead. Go figure!

But, knock on wood, I have had a couple of small winning sessions & a couple of breakevens, so maybe the tide is turning for me.
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:44 PM
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LOL
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:27 PM
Red_Diamond Red_Diamond is offline
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

Update. Came back and played 2 more hours trying to prove 2+2 philosophy is right. And I just lost almost another 100 big bets to the worst players ever.

???

I'm starting to shake now. And theories of a site's doom switch is now coming to realization.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

wow that's a pretty bad downswing.

you might want to re evaluate your overall play.

what's your general stud philosophy?
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:02 AM
iamastud iamastud is offline
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

Take a break. Try a different site. Go to a live casino if you are playing online.

Sorry for your bad luck.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Stud variance :(

Once a session gets to a point where I feel like I am going to lose a hand even when I know I am way ahead, I just call it a night. It is hard to come out winner when you feel like you are going to lose no matter what happens. Like others have said, you might feel like you are still playing your best, but you probably aren't.
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