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Old 11-04-2007, 11:29 AM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default f gators

now that i have ur attention, check out this spot.

anyone ever look up the villian in a spot like this? He was a complete monkey, didnt seem like a completely thinking player, although the bad pot odds and just this bet makes me wanna just fold in general, but he could def be frusterated losing to me and tilty. Also i had been pretty lag in this game, making a lot of isos and pf raises and re raises etc. Heres an example of how he plays (although it was later in the session) and how ive been playing to some extent.

Hand #47285190-17616 at Bliss (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 04/Nov/07 09:20:23

LifeQuest is at seat 0 with $542.10.
LessonsRExtra is at seat 1 with $396.
quelaw1978 is at seat 2 with $412.20.
AcTiOnJaCsOn is at seat 3 with $1516.50.
who_what is at seat 4 with $334.30.
luvbaseball is at seat 5 with $194.80.
The button is at seat 3.

who_what posts the small blind of $2.
luvbaseball posts the big blind of $4.

LifeQuest: -- --
LessonsRExtra: -- --
quelaw1978: -- --
AcTiOnJaCsOn: 3d Kd
who_what: -- --
luvbaseball: -- --

Pre-flop:

LifeQuest calls. LessonsRExtra folds. quelaw1978
calls. AcTiOnJaCsOn raises to $22. who_what calls.
luvbaseball calls. LifeQuest calls. quelaw1978
folds.

Flop (board: 6d Qd 8d):

who_what checks. luvbaseball checks. LifeQuest
checks. AcTiOnJaCsOn bets $55. who_what goes all-in
for $312.30. luvbaseball folds. LifeQuest folds.
AcTiOnJaCsOn calls.

Turn (board: 6d Qd 8d 9h):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 6d Qd 8d 9h 9c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

who_what shows 2h 8h.
who_what has 8h Qd 8d 9h 9c: two pair, nines and eights.
AcTiOnJaCsOn shows 3d Kd.
AcTiOnJaCsOn has 3d Kd 6d Qd 8d: flush, king high.

Here is the hand in question:




Hand #47285190-17611 at Bliss (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 04/Nov/07 09:16:34

LifeQuest is at seat 0 with $548.10.
LessonsRExtra is at seat 1 with $400.
quelaw1978 is at seat 2 with $306.70.
AcTiOnJaCsOn is at seat 3 with $1575.60.
who_what is at seat 4 with $366.
The button is at seat 3.

who_what posts the small blind of $2.
LifeQuest posts the big blind of $4.

LifeQuest: -- --
LessonsRExtra: -- --
quelaw1978: -- --
AcTiOnJaCsOn: 4c 4d
who_what: -- --

Pre-flop:

LessonsRExtra calls. quelaw1978 folds. AcTiOnJaCsOn
raises to $18. who_what calls. LifeQuest folds.
LessonsRExtra folds.

Flop (board: 2h 2d 9c):

who_what checks. AcTiOnJaCsOn checks.

Turn (board: 2h 2d 9c 9h):

who_what bets $44. AcTiOnJaCsOn calls.

River (board: 2h 2d 9c 9h Jc):

who_what goes all-in for $304. AcTiOnJaCsOn: ?

so who calls and who folds and why?

P.S.- i realize this hand has a lot to do with metagame, but hopefully ive included enough details and reads to help others analyze but if not let me know . This was a hand that i was pretty confused about and used my whole timebank be4 making a decision so all comments and suggestions are welcome and ecouraged.
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:59 AM
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i'd fold
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:17 PM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: f gators

also i should probably note that the river bet was 2 1/2 x the pot which can mean a lot of things
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:21 PM
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it means u have to win more often than not to call. i think a big part of this is that he just seems so bad he could be shoving AK to A2 to TT we have no idea. don't think it's worth it.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:32 PM
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hi just because you won the million doesn't mean you're exempt from using a converter.


oh and fold
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:43 PM
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hi just because you won 166 buyins at 5/10 doesn't mean you're exempt from using a converter.


oh and fold

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Old 11-04-2007, 01:05 PM
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hi just because you won 166 buyins at 5/10 doesn't mean you're exempt from using a converter.


oh and fold

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ok...... so im still getting flammed for saying that winning 166k from the sunday million is the same amount of money as winning 166 buy ins at 5/10, fair enough people can be ignorant if they chose 2
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:12 PM
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1. lol
2. i think id fold but i cant really ansewr based on a post, id have to be playing to get this one right (more often than not anyway)
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:15 PM
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zzz easy fold
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:20 PM
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fold pre-conversion
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