And I thought I was weak-tight *before* this hand...

private joker · #1 09-20-2007, 07:17 AM

Commerce 20. So this idiot donkey who play way too aggro preflop and way too passive post-flop (basically the perfect opponent) opens in MP; a horrific lady in the hijack who plays far too weakly preflop and absolutely terribly loose post-flop (not to mention she's on tilt from not winning a pot in an hour) cold-calls; I'm on the button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and goddammit I don't feel like folding and 3-betting might get me some fold equity later on but one of the blinds is loose and calls down with any pair so I figure why not just cold-call and try to win a nice large multiway pot with a suited connector. I cold-call.

Both blinds end up folding. 3 to the flop. Flop comes 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP bets, HJ calls, I raise, both call.

Turn is the crap-tastic 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Checked around.
River is the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP hesitates and checks, hijack checks, and I.... check because I can't see what worse hands will call and what better hands will fold.

Scary_Tiger · #2 09-20-2007, 08:11 AM

Um yeah this is fine. Only debatable spot is I think folding preflop is probably a bit better.

private joker · #3 09-20-2007, 08:14 AM

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I think folding preflop is probably a bit better.

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes. I had a table full of drooling babboons and I couldn't pick up two napkins to play against them.

cgrohman · #4 09-20-2007, 10:28 AM

You don't hink Ace or Kind high will call?

sternroolz · #5 09-20-2007, 10:55 AM

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes. I had a table full of drooling babboons and I couldn't pick up two napkins to play against them.

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Order and nurse a beer until you pick up a hand.

Anyway, going by player descriptons, I don't think you could play this hand post flop any other way. The only possibilty I think is if the river bricked you could try a bluff as it seems no one had a pair.

Entity · #6 09-20-2007, 11:16 AM

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I think folding preflop is probably a bit better.

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes. I had a table full of drooling babboons and I couldn't pick up two napkins to play against them.

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Stop tilting and fold preflop already. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Once you get there I really think you should bet the turn. Obviously check the river if you get called, but I think there's a reasonable chance in a smallish pot that you're the only one who can represent any sort of pair here, and if they call (well, especially if the PFR calls), you'll still have a bunch of outs most of the time.

Rob

Garland · #7 09-20-2007, 04:42 PM

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes.

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Then it's time to leave the game. The table might be good, but if you currently lack discipline to wait out the dead periods, you are leaking some. Clearly you are looking for excuses to play, but you need to have a little talk with yourself if you're making looser than normal calls.

Garland

private joker · #8 09-20-2007, 07:25 PM

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes.

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Then it's time to leave the game. The table might be good, but if you currently lack discipline to wait out the dead periods, you are leaking some. Clearly you are looking for excuses to play, but you need to have a little talk with yourself if you're making looser than normal calls.

Garland

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Hahahaha. This coming from the guy who plays T8o in the hijack in a loose, aggressive game.

Garland · #9 09-20-2007, 07:33 PM

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Hahahaha. This coming from the guy who plays T8o in the hijack in a loose, aggressive game.

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Hey, at least my hand wasn't raised [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

I knew this was coming, BTW. You should still leave, and you can make an argument that I should have left mine.

Garland

SNOWBALL · #10 09-20-2007, 07:14 PM

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That's my standard play. But goddamit I was so sick of folding in that session. I was card dead and my wrists were cramping from me spinning 2 cards into the muck every 3 minutes. I had a table full of drooling babboons and I couldn't pick up two napkins to play against them.

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I wonder if counters get sick of not doubling their total of ten versus another paint showing, and GODDAMN IT JUST ONE TIME DOUBLE DOWN