Daily $50k on PS; debateable turn spot

[Clayton]

No idea how villain plays, unfortunately. Instead of scouting my opposition I've been ordering stuff online. Crap >_<

PokerStars Tournament #56061224, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150)
Table '56061224 142' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: HERO (4690 in chips)
Seat 2: Rigboz (7625 in chips)
Seat 3: Sparbrook (4640 in chips)
Seat 4: Dennis_TO (3525 in chips)
Seat 5: beck_AA (10437 in chips)
Seat 6: VAMPIR LADY (1910 in chips)
Seat 7: jandrel (10415 in chips)
Seat 8: f7684 (8295 in chips)
Seat 9: JayP-AA (4908 in chips)
Dennis_TO: posts small blind 75
beck_AA: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Th Ah]
VAMPIR LADY: folds
jandrel: raises 150 to 300
f7684: folds
JayP-AA: folds
HERO: calls 300
Rigboz: calls 300
Sparbrook: folds
Dennis_TO: folds
beck_AA: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 5s 7h]
jandrel: bets 150
HERO: raises 450 to 600
Rigboz: folds
jandrel: calls 450
*** TURN *** [Ad 5s 7h] [Jh]
jandrel: bets 750
HERO: has around 3700 left

[Yoshi63]

It looks like villian's ahead here, but it's hard to say if he's folding to a shove. It almost seems like he was planning on trying to get to a showdown on the flop, but the jack hitting made him want to take it down now. Either that or he's simply donking the turn to build a huge pot (with his monster hand). We aren't folding here, so if we're not just calling I see no other raise size than a shove.

The only reason why I think shoving might be good, is it you can get AK/AQ/AT off the hand. There seem to be a lot of possible holdings for villian, along with several possibile reactions (since we have no read). All-in-all, I'm leaning towards a call in position.

[ForRealDD]

Fold preflop. As played, shove the turn. If he had a legitimately strong hand (AK/AQ/AJ) he's likely going to c/r. The only other thing this can be imo is a set, or a non-ace hand.

[registrar]

Call. Villain's ahead and is folding no better hands or he's going to fold to a shove because he's behind. He's not going to fold when you hit because if he leads river, he's committed and when he checks and you shove a flushed river it looks like a bluff and he'll call with two pair and AQ+ for sure.

[Yoshi63]

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Call. Villain's ahead and is folding no better hands or he's going to fold to a shove because he's behind. He's not going to fold when you hit because if he leads river, he's committed and when he checks and you shove a flushed river it looks like a bluff and he'll call with two pair and AQ+ for sure.

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I meant to add in my post what registrar said, about getting paid off. People usually don't believe you and will pay you off when you hit runner-runner flushes.

[Clayton]

ps, never ever folding preflop. sry.

[ForRealDD]

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ps, never ever folding preflop. sry.

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Orly? May be something to look into.

[Clayton]

i see the minraise as a weaker range and i like playing pots in position versus tourney players. shrug. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[shaundeeb]

I don't raise the dry flop I just call turn because he will prob bet small on river too.

[LearnedfromTV]

Call; when he has you beat you lose less, when you get there and he had you beat, you win (nearly) as much, when you have him beat, you don't have to protect against anything but a 2-4 outer, probably 2.