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Old 10-04-2007, 06:47 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

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much better on the 2c

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makes very litte, if any difference. Think about it (I'm aware of the flush)

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what? it makes a ton of difference because he can think you're bluffing a missed draw, and this hand would be absolutely fine if it was the 2c.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

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much better on the 2c

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makes very litte, if any difference. Think about it (I'm aware of the flush)

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what? it makes a ton of difference because he can think you're bluffing a missed draw, and this hand would be absolutely fine if it was the 2c.

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I don't think he calls enough on the river putting us on a busted FD w/ a worse hand than QQ here.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

1. who c/c a flush draw oop in a rr pot?

2. who cares about flushes in a rr pot?


the flush will be the last thing on his mind.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

I think you're bluffing, not value-betting
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

4bet pf but since you didn't

c/c flop
c/f turn
c/f river
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

Isnt this already a very bad flop for your hand in a reraised pot?
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

Why are you turning your hand into a bluff, c/c a smallish raise fold to a proper sized bet? I don't really see what you accomplish with this line 4bet pre as has been said esp since it's 4 handed...
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:57 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

This is just a nothing bet. You never get called by worse and never fold better unlss he was getting fisky with like KT preflop.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ basic river valuebet question

This is a bluff, not a value bet. And I do think AK folds here a lot, but with that said this is still really bad.
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