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Old 09-01-2007, 03:44 AM
Jimmakos Jimmakos is offline
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Default TT against fish, fold river?

villain is 67/3/1 over 33 hands.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $35.40
BB: $71.25
Hero (UTG): $33.05
MP: $18.90
CO: $25.95
BTN: $23.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.75

Turn: ($8.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $15.00</font>, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($38.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $52.50</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $91.00 ($1.90 Rake)

Perhaps fold turn?
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

Turn bet doesn't need to be so big. 5.5 - 6 is probably fine.


Easy fold to his turn check raise.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

So turn bet should be half the pot?
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

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So turn bet should be half the pot?

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No...but 4.25 would be half pot.

5.5 would be just slightly less than 2/3 pot.

6 would be about 70% of pot.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

I think a turn check is a better option than then betting out 1/2 - 2/3 pot, because it controls the pot size (Are we really trying to double up 130bb's deep with TT?). Also When he calls your flop bet, what range are you putting him on? (I know I've seen lots of donks play any two suited cards that just look nice together). When the turn hits it completes the possible flush, and brings an over card.
I think a check behind and on an innocuous river, if I really think he's a straight up fish playing every hand, I call a PSB on the river.

Maybe I just too passive.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

Naw eddie, your not to passive. Turn Check. Then Fold River to a big bet. With that VPIP he has so many cards in his range that beat you that you could have just hit the fold button on the turn when he checked to you (obv a joke).
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

Results:

Villain shows 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes)
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

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Results:

Villain shows 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes)

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You show the results, but thats being results oriented which I believe is a no no if u wanna b successful. Most of the time your beat when that card comes, so why not keep the pot small for situations where they're floating you, like your "results" show.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

fold on the turn
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: TT against fish, fold river?

Since it's 25NL and he's a fish I would just c/f the turn. And when he shows you his cards at the end like that just know that you can easily stack him when you have a bigger hand. Trying to stack him with a marginal hand like TT just isn't worth it.
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