200NL - 2 tough spots in 3-bet pots oop.

[Fat Nicky]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $224.65</font>
BB: $78.00
UTG: $38.00
MP: $390.05
CO: $207.00
<font color="black">BTN: $180.00</font>

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is 26/16/5. he calls 3-bets light. 1 or 2 orbits ago, I 3bet his CO raise from the button and won the pot w/a c-bet on a QJxr flop. </font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $19.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($54) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ?????


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $213.75</font>
BB: $213.35
UTG: $198.75
<font color="black">MP: $188.00</font>
CO: $217.20
BTN: $189.00

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is 23/13/3. mostly mined hands and i don\'t recall any history. </font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, BB folds, MP calls $19.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($54) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ????


plan for both hands???

[13_Xerxes]

I CB the first one to 40$.

The second one is more difficult. I think I check/call one time. That's a pretty good flop for his range.

[Fat Nicky]

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I CB the first one to 40$.



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ok, say we c-bet 40 in hand one and he calls. turn plan?? i feel like the villain in hand one is the type to call w/hands like KQ or KJ here, maybe even QT/JT. he'll call w/a flush draw for sure.

[13_Xerxes]

His HR is wide, not sure he liked a lot this flop. If he raises, easy fold, if he calls, probably check/fold, unless we hit a K/T or spade, to semi bluff allin on the turn...

[Fat Nicky]

bump one time...

[Choparno]

I'm interested in seeing more responses to this because I find myself in these spots all the time against people who appear to call 3-bets light and/or call c-bets light in reraised pots.

In hand 1 I also lead for $36-40 and fold to a raise, c/f any turn that doesn't give us a straight or a flush draw.

Hand 2 I am also leading 2/3 psb or so, but I like this even less. Seems like we're going to get called/raised a LOT on this flop unless villain holds 22-99. Is just giving up on this flop too weak without a specific read?

[Fat Nicky]

c'mon peoples...at least tell me if these hands are just uninteresting, or maybe not many people know the correct play????

[thedustbustr]

i would checkfold in both of these spots

[fees]

b/f both, tons of fold equity

[silenced]

ughhhh these are actually pretty difficult. I cbet the first one.....and c/f the turn if called. As for the second one, I really don't know what you're gonna be ahead of here besides JJ in which villain has outs and could make a play. So i actually somehow find a c/f on hand 2.