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08-24-2007, 11:10 AM
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Am I a scumbag, B&M?
Everyday I see posts here where ppl take some blatant angleshot and then post about it while acting innocent. That is the inspiration for this post.
Late in my 1/2 session, some 2/5 player decides to slum it at my table for awhile. He ends up sitting directly to my right, and goes crazy, stealing almost every pot. It's not too long before I realize he's either drunk or not paying attention, and peeks at his hole cards with only one hand. Without any effort on my part, I can see his hole cards in 4/5 hands. After half an hour of watching him steal pots w/ 8 high, I start reraising him light PF to isolate and take him down. I never hit a big score against him, seeing as he consistently hit 2 pr and i was running completely card-dead. Ultimately I probably took 60-75 from him. I only kept this up for 45 minutes before this player went BUSTO against some other fish who flopped a monster. My question: am I a scumbag? I don't have an obligation to tell him to hide his cards, but does this border on douchebaggery? This feels like more of a grey area than some of the other moral questions i see here, but i may be biased. 
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#2
08-24-2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
Unless he had done something specifically horrible to me I would tell him something like this while the cards are being shuffled, "I think I got a flash fo your hole cards last hand, you should probably cover them a little better."
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#3
08-24-2007, 11:27 AM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
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My question: am I a scumbag? [/ QUOTE ] No. The spoils of war go to the victor. He should have concealed his cards.
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#4
08-24-2007, 11:33 AM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
I have had this happen on occasion. My standard is I tell the person once that I can see his cards. If it continues that I can see the cards without moving into a better vantage point then I use the information to my advantage.
As a side note I have told some people (usually old men, or nice people) more than once. Mean people or jerks get the standard one time only.
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#5
08-24-2007, 11:44 AM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
I should add that this player was entirely capable of shoving 150BB at any point with complete air. There was potentially a ton of money to be made in this situation.
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#6
08-24-2007, 01:44 PM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
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I should add that this player was entirely capable of shoving 150BB at any point with complete air. There was potentially a ton of money to be made in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] This is related to how I only steal from rich old ladies.
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#7
08-24-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
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I should add that this player was entirely capable of shoving 150BB at any point with complete air. There was potentially a ton of money to be made in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] So the ethics change if you can make a lot of money?
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#8
08-24-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
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[ QUOTE ] I should add that this player was entirely capable of shoving 150BB at any point with complete air. There was potentially a ton of money to be made in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] So the ethics change if you can make a lot of money? [/ QUOTE ] I wanted ppl to be aware of the scope of the situation. The ability to potentially take down a monster pot w/ Ace high is significant here.
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#10
08-25-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: Am I a scumbag, B&M?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I should add that this player was entirely capable of shoving 150BB at any point with complete air. There was potentially a ton of money to be made in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] So the ethics change if you can make a lot of money? [/ QUOTE ] I wanted ppl to be aware of the scope of the situation. The ability to potentially take down a monster pot w/ Ace high is significant here. [/ QUOTE ] LOL.
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