JJ river play

bobhalford · #1 11-17-2007, 07:38 PM

No read...

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

River: (11.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

topspinner · #2 11-17-2007, 07:52 PM

without any reads, I am not sure how you can do anything but C/C.

mjkidd · #3 11-17-2007, 08:17 PM

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without any reads, I am not sure how you can do anything but C/C.

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You can bet/fold, and I think it's better here. Most better hands are going to be bet on this river if you check (QQ and KK will probably bet, and they can be discounted because of the lack of a pf cap). He could easily have a hand like 89, 8T, 99, or TT that will likely call if you bet the river but are never betting if you check. If he has AK or AQ or aces up, you might get raised, but then you have a pretty easy fold.

jstill · #4 11-17-2007, 08:46 PM

Id bet, id have to have a reason to bet call or ck call the former being more likely to occur

BryanC · #5 11-17-2007, 08:54 PM

I like bet/fold,

Not sure we can narrow his range a whole lot on the turn there are plenty of hands he could be semi bluffing with, so i like the turn three bet. Follow through and bet the river he calls with enough lower pairs to show a profit IMO

jr4284 · #6 11-17-2007, 08:55 PM

I bet/call this all day long. I'm really only worred about AdXd showing up here.

The only way I check/call is if I have a note that he is able to be induced a lot and has a low SD%.

SuperUberBob · #7 11-17-2007, 09:08 PM

I like bet/folding on this hand. I only check/call if I think my opponent will make a river bluff on the ace.

istewart · #8 11-17-2007, 10:04 PM

Villain's name? Your name? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

You were probably on my tables tonight. I got murdered.

rzk · #9 11-18-2007, 12:37 AM

i think river is a b/f, as others said.

but is the turn a clear 3-bet? it feels close to me.

mjkidd · #10 11-18-2007, 12:57 AM

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i think river is a b/f, as others said.

but is the turn a clear 3-bet? it feels close to me.

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Agreed. I think it's close, and against an unknown, it would depend on how aggressive the game plays. I would normally lean towards just calling down to the turn raise, but I don't think that 3betting this turn is too bad.