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Old 11-12-2007, 08:23 AM
chrismystero chrismystero is offline
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Default Re: TP2K in 3bet pot (NL50)

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HER0 shoves $53 (into $55 pot)
VILLAIN ...

... can you guess what he had?

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JJ
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:41 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: TP2K in 3bet pot (NL50)

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HER0 shoves $53 (into $55 pot)
VILLAIN ...

... can you guess what he had?

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JJ

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I agree, probably an overpair.

And btw, FTR heads up forum is not so populated. But you got similar responses than here.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:27 AM
vodoo vodoo is offline
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Default Re: TP2K in 3bet pot (NL50)

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You played it right. I would probably also just call the flop, depends on the metagame. But definitely I am willing to felt top pair the majority of time. You need a good reason to fold top pair in HU. This doesn't seem like one of those spots.

I can't believe you posted the same hand on FTR. Is this really such a trouble hand? Seems standard to me.

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Can you plz explain to me what you mean by "metagame"

thank you
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:48 PM
Sheetah Sheetah is offline
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Default Re: TP2K in 3bet pot (NL50)

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And btw, FTR heads up forum is not so populated.

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Sad but true. It started with lots of enthusiasm recently and now it's close to dead.

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But you got similar responses than here.

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Pretty 'dry' responses. Not really a discussion. Whatever.

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JJ

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I agree, probably an overpair.

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The moment I shoved I held my breath expecting to see something like ^^^ that but to my shock ...

... VILLAIN <font color="red"> INSTA-FOLDS !!!!????!!! </font>
[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
He was getting 10-to-1 on a call! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
immediately after folding ...
VILLAIN insta-leaves the table!

The most confusing pot I've won in HU cash. And an important lesson learned: Just because someone looks like he's playing solid, do not assume too easily he doesn't suck [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
jay_shark jay_shark is offline
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Default Re: TP2K in 3bet pot (NL50)

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You played it right. I would probably also just call the flop, depends on the metagame. But definitely I am willing to felt top pair the majority of time. You need a good reason to fold top pair in HU. This doesn't seem like one of those spots.

I can't believe you posted the same hand on FTR. Is this really such a trouble hand? Seems standard to me.

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Can you plz explain to me what you mean by "metagame"

thank you

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Here is one definition that sums it up nicely which was given by Ray Zee from the poker theory forum .

metagame : it is the altering of your opponent's perception of you for your benefit .

Metagame also refers to situations where you make a decision that may not be optimal but for purposes to gain information for future reference . For instance , you may make a river call that may be slightly negative EV but for the added benefit of knowing your opponent's betting patterns and what they mean . You're trying to figure out your opponent before he figures you out . In order to remain inscrutable , you must be willing to alter your opponent's perception of you for your benefit . Likewise , your opponent should be willing to do the same .
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