Hero folds. (5 times)

SL__72 · #1 06-30-2006, 04:45 PM

Sorry for posting 5 hands at once... I feel like I've been playing poorly for the last few days. Also sorry for the lack of reads.

I'd appreciate any comments on any street of any of them.

(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, CO calls, Hero folds.

(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Button folds, BB folds, Hero folds.

(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
6 folds, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

(6 handed)

SB in this hand is really bad. He's like 60/4/.5 Hes the type who always bets when checked to and usually calls when facing a bet.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

Jaran · #2 06-30-2006, 05:10 PM

The only one I have a real problem with is hand #2. The villian could be incorrectly raising a 4frush here (especially if this is fulltilt, where this awful play seems to be the norm). I think I call and reevaluate on the turn.

-Jaran

jamzfive · #3 06-30-2006, 05:23 PM

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(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

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I think this is the only one you might have had a chance on. With all the checking on the flop, and the two checks in front on the turn, Villain could just be taking a stab at the pot here. Could have hit the turn, or could have picked up the straight or flush draw and wants to take the pot now. There are only two behind you to act (who have shown no strength at all), so getting raised behind isn't too much of a concern. Call this one bet here, see the river, and then use your position on Villain to see what he does.

If you're feeling aggressive you could raise (giving an even better probability that the blinds fold behind you), and put pressure on Villain, but unless he was on a pure bluff, Villain would probably call one more bet, getting 6-to-1.

jb

Aaron W. · #4 06-30-2006, 05:26 PM

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
6 folds, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

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What's with the flop raise?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

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What's with the turn check?

CrMenace · #5 06-30-2006, 05:27 PM

*grunch*
Hand 1 - Looks right. If you give yourself the standard 1.5 outs for the A, maybe .5 for the T, and 1.5 for the BDSD, you need 9.4:1. With pot laying 8.5:1, and a potential raiser behind, I think the fold is correct.

Hand 2- Villian likely has KQ or KJ. I have no qualms with folding.

Hand 3- looks right as well. Flop bet might have been a bluff against your blind steal. Turn bet seems unlikely for that purpose. You don't have the outs to call.

Hand 4- Looks good. With it so multiway, someone is likely to have a K. For such a small pot, I don't think I would bet the flop and risk the checkraise.

Hand 5- Looks good. Since your 2-pair is counterfeited, your 33 isn't worth much. Fold is good here. I could maybe see betting out again as a semi-bluff since the 6 was unlikely to improve anyone's hand.

SL__72 · #6 06-30-2006, 05:34 PM

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
6 folds, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

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What's with the flop raise?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

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What's with the turn check?

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Flop raise? = [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Easy fold, right?

Turn check? I raised the flop, got coldcalled and called, my 2nd pair got counterfitted and I got scared. This was the hand of the 5 that I was the most unsure about.

Absolution · #7 06-30-2006, 05:46 PM

Hand 1: I'd make a loose call here and then fold turn unimproved. I'd say 4.5 outs is reasonable and the odds are close.

Hand 2: Guess this would depend on the opponent. Only thing you're beating now is a free card play. I don't mind this fold.

Hand 3: Fold flop or see showdown. Calling and folding turn makes no sense here.

Hand 4: Raise preflop for me and this wouldn't be a terrible flop for a continuation bet if check to. As played you have no idea what's going on so fold is fine.

Hand 5: This is fine.

VickreyAuction · #8 06-30-2006, 06:06 PM

I'm assuming unknowns at whatever level you're playing aren't tricky or aggro.

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(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, CO calls, Hero folds.

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Fine. Good fold. You're behind, getting 9:1, but you have like 3 outs.

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(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Button folds, BB folds, Hero folds.

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Good fold. You're either behind to a K or he's got a flush draw. Raising here with a FD doesn't make any sense (unless he thinks you'll fold).
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(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
6 folds, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

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I'd just fold the flop. If he's donking an OESD, then you're equity isn't great, and it's also likely that he's donking with a pair.
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(10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

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I think this is fine, although I would bet this if I could beat middle pair.
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(6 handed)

SB in this hand is really bad. He's like 60/4/.5 Hes the type who always bets when checked to and usually calls when facing a bet.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

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This is fine. If SB has a 3, he's ahead of you. CO could have a 6, or a flush draw. An alternative line is to bet/fold the turn, since that charges CO if he's on a flush draw. But it's tough to assume that SB would lead the flop with just a 2 or a weak straight draw.