NL25 How toi keep Tag in

[Mr_Pathetic]

This hand I wasn't sure about whole way. Probably should have 3bet Preflop but he isn't calling with a worse ace ever. I knew if I raised on flop no way he commits with a worse hand (as in non combo draw) so I called. On turn I call again since board paired and his range is most likely an ace. River is a Q and game me some cause for concern but I still did not think I could fold as I felt he would still valuebet AJ,ATs and maybe even bet a busted draw thinking I would fold my ace that should never be this strong since I did not threebet. My range for him after flop was AJ+,ATs+,98s. Who still calls this river given this passive line?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $37.80
Hero (CO): $77.55
BTN: $9.35
SB: $24.75
BB: $22.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) A 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.35) 8 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($14.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

[Profish2285]

I hate your line here. It seems like you are seeing monsters under the bed. Dont assume that because you raise it shuts out all worse hands, theres no reason to think that. 3 bet this pf, definitely raise this flop. If you want you can then check the turn for pot control and either call a river bet or if he checks you can bet. If he was looser the appropriate action is to just bet/bet/bet f/t/r.

[traz]

river is a must call. You're way too passive with AK here, alot of worse hands will come along, despite your read. Raise preflop. As played raise the flop, there's alot of value to be made here

[Mr_Pathetic]

FWIW villain is hennerz.

[Arp220]

raise pf, raise flop, raise turn FOR GODS SAKE JUST RAISE SOMEWHERE!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[thac]

Raise flop because you can represent any number of draws or sets or air and if he doesn't have an ace he's gonna shut down eventually anyways. I like preflop.

[Mr_Pathetic]

Ok so if I raise flop then he is probably calling with this range which means we flip. Unless he will call with the AJ combos which I don't think he would if I raised flop. He wasn't aware who I was and at the time I was running ~17VPIP. So should I still raise and be happy to get my money in or should I wait till a safe turn then go for it?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.609% 49.29% 00.32% 7319 48.00 { AhKc }
Hand 1: 50.391% 50.07% 00.32% 7435 48.00 { 88, 55, AQs, 9d8d, AQo }

Disclaimer: This is not his flop betting range but his flop calling a raise range. His betting range is obv wider.

Edit: We were also semi-deep here as well.

[Red Shell]

looks ok given your read.

[thac]

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Ok so if I raise flop then he is probably calling with this range which means we flip. Unless he will call with the AJ combos which I don't think he would if I raised flop. He wasn't aware who I was and at the time I was running ~17VPIP. So should I still raise and be happy to get my money in or should I wait till a safe turn then go for it?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.609% 49.29% 00.32% 7319 48.00 { AhKc }
Hand 1: 50.391% 50.07% 00.32% 7435 48.00 { 88, 55, AQs, 9d8d, AQo }

Disclaimer: This is not his flop betting range but his flop calling a raise range. His betting range is obv wider.

Edit: We were also semi-deep here as well.

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There are more flush draws in his range than just 98d.

[Mr_Pathetic]

more then 9d8d that call my flop raise? I am not sure of how loose he is UTG.