How Bout Enumerating The Flawed Hands In Colin's Book

[suzzer99]

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If he's getting the right answer with the wrong reasoning that's worse imo.

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LOL, that one slipped by the first time. Thanks for catching it. It's way worse than something like having the right reasoning but your range is off.

[ymu]

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If he's getting the right answer with the wrong reasoning that's worse imo.

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Absolutely, and it's not even close.

David hasn't said exactly why he wants this. It seems like a bizarre request if it's solely for the purpose of improving the book for a 2nd edition.

I second Suzzer's suggestion. I'd love to see the questionable hands posted as threads. Colin's undoubtedly a very good player, so to be able to follow a debate on his reasoning between some great players would be invaluable.

[cakewalk]

sklanksy i'll start talking about this book when you start telling me where i can redeem my sklanksy bucks

[Slim Pickens]

I'll propose another series of hands for discussion: the "marginal resteal even with very exact reads that no one ever has in-game" series.

Here's the link to DevinLake's 2+2 Magazine forum thread where the hands are discussed some.

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I doubt discussion of these would result in a consensus, but I will say that in all of them, some hand-waving followed by "push" is a poor explanation. The STTF argument would probably degenerate into one about minimum edge given a large uncertainty in hand ranges, which gets about as much agreement from top pros as how to play JJ UTG+1 in Level 1.

[suzzer99]

It would be nice to see the actual hands, for those of us who don't have the book.

[Pudge714]

Could people please post the hands that they are talking about.
Rehosting Colin internet magazine article would be a good start.

[Slim Pickens]

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It would be nice to see the actual hands, for those of us who don't have the book.

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If the copyright owner gives us permission... David?

[Michael C.]

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I was thinking it would be helpful if there was a consensus among you pros out there as to which of the sample hands are definitely wrong, in your combined opinion, as far as his answer is concerned. (Not his reasoning.) I'm not talking about debatable answers or those which "it depends". I'm talking about the ones where you would all agree his answer is incorrect. Preliminary reviews make me think there a few such questions. I, and I'm sure Mason and Colin, would like to know which ones they are.

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I'm sure the general public would have liked to have liked to have known which ones they are before being asked to buy the book. Why wasn't this done before the book was published? Its hard for me to believe you would really publish a book like this without asking some of the STT pros here to look at it BEFORE it came out. Its not like you or Mason are STT experts compared to some of the people here. I think its pretty unprofessional as a publishing company that you would be looking for such a list NOW, and that alone would convince me not to buy the book. I know if I ever wrote something on STTs, I'd sure as heck try to get some of the people here to look at it first.

[microbet]

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I dont know what book your talking about but if you really want this done well why not get 5 STT pros from this forum and pay them some amount of money and send them copies of the books. Im sure you could find people to do this (not me) and you'll get better results then trying to get everyone on here to edit your books for free.

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Good idea.

Microbet

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[SlackerMcFly]

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I will edit the book for $5k.

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I'll turn it into prose for $7.5K.

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